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re: Hospitals around the nation are seeing a 41% increase in non-covid mortality

Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:16 am to
Posted by atxfan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:16 am to
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patients are putting off treatment for issues that require immediate emergency care


Sounds like the patients themselves are choosing to put off treatment because they're scared of infection. Seems like you're trying to make it sound like a poilicy was created that denied treatment to non-COVID patients.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96702 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:18 am to
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Sounds like the patients themselves are choosing to put off treatment because they're scared of infection. Seems like you're trying to make it sound like a poilicy was created that denied treatment to non-COVID patients.



I’m not trying to twist anything. You constantly have leaders telling people to not leave the house, the hospitals are overrun and people are dying in the halls etc, people will stay away at all costs
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 8:19 am
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:25 am to
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Sounds like the patients themselves are choosing to put off treatment because they're scared of infection. Seems like you're trying to make it sound like a poilicy was created that denied treatment to non-COVID patients


As Coronavirus Strains Hospitals, Cancer Patients Face Treatment Delays, Uncertainty

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111305 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:11 am to
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Sounds like the patients themselves are choosing to put off treatment because they're scared of infection
Yes, because of how badly everyone, the media/government/citizens overreacted to what COVID can do.

Had the reaction to it been realistic to how bad COVID is, many people wouldn't have been so scared to put off these treatments.



You're also missing the mark because it's not ALL patients putting off treatment, as all elective procedures were canceled pretty much nationwide for over a month, so...

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Seems like you're trying to make it sound like a poilicy was created that denied treatment to non-COVID patients.
Where did he do that?
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 10:14 am
Posted by fishfighter
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Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:21 am to
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Sounds like the patients themselves are choosing to put off treatment because they're scared of infection. Seems like you're trying to make it sound like a poilicy was created that denied treatment to non-COVID patients.


Some truth to that, but to me doing a video house call, I am sure my cardo doctor would just tell me to go to the ER. Been there, done that way to many times.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20936 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:29 am to
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Sounds like the patients themselves are choosing to put off treatment because they're scared of infection. Seems like you're trying to make it sound like a poilicy was created that denied treatment to non-COVID patients.




Come on, man! You don't think the media and politicians haven't created a fearful environment?? Telling people to stay home, wear masks, bed space needed for victims, etc is telling you to stay away!! Especically for older folks who have been told they are at a much higher risk category, you don't think they are going to be scared to go out for doctor visits, testing, etc??
Posted by tigers03
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 11:27 am to
But elective surgeries have been postponed for several weeks. Hospitals were even deferring surgeries on pts with known cancer diagnosis. We won’t know for some time how postponing these procedures/surgeries have affected patient outcomes.
Posted by littleavery1948
Member since Oct 2014
2781 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 11:46 am to
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Sounds like the patients themselves are choosing to put off treatment because they're scared of infection. Seems like you're trying to make it sound like a poilicy was created that denied treatment to non-COVID patients.


Likely this. Of course, I'm supposed to have another hernia surgery in my stomach because of past surgeries (this one is 2 inches above the naval); this will be my fifth one in six years. I'll just wait until it becomes strangulated, then I can blame COVID-19. As far as cancer treatments are concerned, I'm not sure what I would do. Of course, with my history, they could force me to stay in the hospital. When I had leukemia, I had to stay in the hospital during my entire chemotherapy treatment, but I'm not sure how viable that would be, and I really don't know how much safer it is. I still got infections and pneumonia, which extended my treatments (as in, delayed them, which extended my hospital stay). I missed all of second semester of school, and the summer, before finally returning to school in OCtober!
Posted by terriblegreen
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Member since Aug 2011
9739 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 12:12 pm to
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Seems like you're trying to make it sound like a poilicy was created that denied treatment to non-COVID patients.


Just stop. You are twisting his words to fit your argument because your argument is very weak.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20085 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 12:43 pm to
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Sounds like the patients themselves are choosing to put off treatment because they're scared of infection. Seems like you're trying to make it sound like a poilicy was created that denied treatment to non-COVID patients.


Healthcare was not sparred from the shut down, non medically necessary visits were postponed. Where have you been?
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