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Debate: Are unions what caused the United States to lose so many manufacturing jobs?

Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:18 pm
Posted by thadcastle
Member since Dec 2019
2841 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:18 pm
Obviously unions were needed to fight for the average work in the early 1900's but did they outlast their initial purpose and cause jobs to leave the US?
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 1:18 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
215934 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:18 pm to
I say yes.......
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
36899 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:18 pm to
It actually made the USA more tight
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41091 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:18 pm to
Not the, but A
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37322 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

did they outlast their initial purpose
They were a bunch of loosers.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
73354 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

caused the United States to loose so many manufacturing jobs?


No, poor grammar is the cause.

you loose, we loose
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
105842 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:20 pm to
A cog in the wheel. I don't think you can discount how cheap labor is in other countries, letting them work in conditions we likely wouldn't accept even without unions. Or the almost complete lack of regulations in some of those countries.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 1:21 pm
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6918 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:20 pm to
Short answer is YES.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
72945 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:20 pm to
They played a role


Generally speaking, unions rot the regions they dominate
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61227 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:21 pm to
Partly
Posted by Nature Boy
Negatiger
Member since Jan 2008
19092 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:21 pm to
In short, yes. It’s a sad, but true, reality. Pro union folks will argue this, but economically, in a capitalist society, there’s really no way to dispute this fact if you’re being intellectually honest.
Posted by goinallout
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
1071 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:21 pm to
YES!!!! Why pay someone $200 an hour plus benefits plus WEEKS paid vacation when you can pay someone $10 a hour and get the same quality of work.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Obviously unions were needed to fight for the average work in the early 1900's


Goes waaaaay back before that.
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
11630 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

They were a bunch of loosers.


as opposed to tighters?

Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:23 pm to
Boomers lost em
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11762 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:23 pm to
We are fine moving cheap labor and pollution to other countries. That is the answer. It is so unthinkable here. But, fine if we buy our products from other countries who do it while we lose jobs here.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30229 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:24 pm to
Yep the day that unions went pay for play if the day they should have been kicked out of the country.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
42207 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:24 pm to
Dirt cheap and plentiful labor in china and other countries is what caused the loss in US manufacturing. Otherwise, why didn't the majority of US manufacturing move to the southern US where there are Right to Work laws?
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
48288 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:25 pm to
Unions were crucial to the development of the working class in the early 1900's but they are destroying the country today. There isn't a need for a union, in the traditional sense, anymore. There are laws in place today that address most of the union concerns in this country and they only exists today for political reasons.
Posted by thadcastle
Member since Dec 2019
2841 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

you loose, we loose

Accidentally hit the "o" button twice. My bad
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