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re: US: March 2020 experienced 34k fewer deaths than the average March of 2016-2019. 15% drop.

Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:12 am to
Posted by DOPEman
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:12 am to
Straight demolition derby the first month back
Posted by PrivatePublic
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:13 am to
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Accidental deaths will increase, but you are incorrect to state we will make up for it.

Final Destination is a movie, not real life.


You don't think there will be an uptick in accidents when people resume driving after having not driven in a couple of months?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:13 am to
How many of those deaths with people over the age of 60 with underlying medical issues?

Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:14 am to
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It still adds a day even though March still has 30. If you were gonna die on March 1 in 2019 that would have been included in this number. In 2020 it would be in February’s.


I know of several people who elected to hold off on death on 2/29 this year, instead going with 3/1, so this theory is mute.
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:18 am to
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how do you explain the VAST drops in pneumonia & heart-related deaths over the same period?


This is going to interesting when we can see the January-May numbers.

While the COVID deaths are legit, they are not as numerous as being portrayed. Many of the people that have died from COVID would have died from something else or they died from another issue while having COVID in the system.

Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:21 am to
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You don't think there will be an uptick in accidents when people resume driving after having not driven in a couple of months?


Of course, they will return the averages +/- a few. We will not "make up" for the missing deaths though.

An accident is a random event, if that event is missed it does not hunt you down.

If we were supposed to have 3000 car related deaths in March, but only had 1000 because of COVID. We are not going have 5000 in May to make up for this missed deaths.
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 10:25 am
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:22 am to
so you're saying The Rona is SAVING LIVES???
Posted by Uhtred
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:25 am to
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fair enough.

how do you explain the VAST drops in pneumonia & heart-related deaths over the same period?


social distancing, of course. People aren't around other people spreading diseases.

Social distancing isn't only helping stop the spread of the coronavirus. We should also see a steep decrease in the overall number of pneumonia, flu, etc cases. And when you have heart conditions, these types of illnesses are hard to recover from, thus we should also see a drop in heart-related deaths.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:26 am to
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so you're saying The Rona is SAVING LIVES???

freeze-tagging everyone in their homes for 2 months is saving lives..and you know...its scaaaaaary out there.

be careful people
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:26 am to
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so you're saying The Rona is SAVING LIVES???


This is pretty much proven - The US population overall mortality rate decreased from COVID for now. Poverty and suicides will increase though.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:28 am to
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OysterPoBoy


Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:28 am to
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Poverty


will be offset by the COVID deaths that were povered
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:29 am to
ms brix explained it for even you.

social distancing, hand washing and masks kept down the flu a and flu b, hepatitis c and whatever else was going around.
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:34 am to
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It still adds a day even though March still has 30.


Um...
Posted by StupidBinder
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:34 am to
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It still adds a day even though March still has 30. If you were gonna die on March 1 in 2019 that would have been included in this number. In 2020 it would be in February’s.


I think I get your point. The leap year basically shifts the start date for March by a day.

I’d question how material that is since you’re still comparing two 31 day time periods That occur during roughly the same part of the year, but I get your point.
Posted by Tortious
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:36 am to
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What effect does that have on the month of March?


It starts a day later I heard
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:40 am to
If you follow the link to the CDC site, it links to only pneumonia and influenza deaths, and has an explicit warning that full data is not available in real time and that numbers will be revised upwards well after the two week period.

It'a not close to what the article claims it is, or the article linked the wrong thing.
Posted by Pintail
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:40 am to
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You don't think there will be an uptick in accidents when people resume driving after having not driven in a couple of months?


Not 34k worth
Posted by oleyeller
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:43 am to
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Also, this is a leap year.
Posted by StupidBinder
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:58 am to
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how do you explain the VAST drops in pneumonia & heart-related deaths over the same period?


Oh there are absolutely some mid-categorized COVID-19 deaths happening (NYC cough cough). There are also fewer people contracting diseases that lead to pneumonia and probably fewer people dying from stressful work (although I wonder how many more people are dying from stressful conditions caused by the lock down and job loss).

Definitely an issue, but that’s a data capture issue, as opposed to an agenda-driven “I’m going to reach a bogus conclusion that fits my narrative” issue.
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