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re: How can our schools allow kids to move on/graduate?

Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:46 am to
Posted by tossedoff
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:46 am to
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I'd imagine the impact will be harder on elementary school kids than it will high school and senior year kids.


This. Especially the lower elementary kids who do a lot of hands on learning. They may not have the same materials at home. Plus, overall, the ones who do the work at home are probably the ones who are the least at risk academically.
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:47 am to
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many students have lost half a school year entirely

they lost 2-2.5 months, and one week of that was spring break

I think that the schools can look at each individual student's position at the time of the pandemic and make decisions based on there standing at that time


wtf were the parents up to?

no books got home?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:48 am to
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My guy this thread is coming off like it was written by a high schooler who has yet to realize how unimportant high school is in the grand scheme.

man my senior year included a Calculus class that set me up past honors Calc 1 at LSU and a Chem 2 class that (according to friends of mine) set them up through 3 semesters of honors Chem at LSU
Posted by BenDover78
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:49 am to
Shut up loser. Let the boys play!! NO RULES!!!!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:49 am to
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I remember after Katrina we were missing like 3 months of my senior year, and everybody just collectively said "frick it"

It left me wondering why we don't always do it that way

yeah that point was raised by uway

if 1/4 of the school year isn't important, then what the frick are we doing, exactly?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:50 am to
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Fine no point in arguing, telling you how it should be. Each semester should have 45 days of instructional days



Yeah we counted something like 38 days left or something close to that number at the time of the shutdown.

Last Day for Seniors would have been May 1st
Last Day for other students would have been May 22nd.and that last week they got out at 12:30 everyday...the 5 weeks before that was AP, HS Testing and Final Exams and the week before all the testing days was Spring Break

Im just telling you the number of days that we counted for our school....maybe yours is different.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:50 am to
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I'm honestly only worried about my kids.


Me too....but if you are in a public school this is a worry. My kid goes to a private school so I'm not really as concerned. BUT...I remember when I was in like 4th or 5th grade (public school) and the teacher called on everyone to read a paragraph....for about 33% of our class those paragraphs took at least 30-45 minutes to get through and for me sitting through that was excruciating....I'd hate for my child to go through that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:50 am to
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This. Especially the lower elementary kids who do a lot of hands on learning. They may not have the same materials at home. Plus, overall, the ones who do the work at home are probably the ones who are the least at risk academically.

yeah if you're from a home that isn't able to do distance learning, i can only imagine the negative impact this will have

summer learning loss is a big issue and this is going to increase that gap a great deal
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:51 am to
That doesn't mean the student isn't ready to graduate and move on though.

You got an advantage, like many do, of being able to skip some courses in college due to AP in high school. Having next years college students start in Calc 1 instead of Calc 2 isn't some horrible outcome.

They can probably offer tests for students to test out of Calc 1 and shite
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:51 am to
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if 1/4 of the school year isn't important, then what the frick are we doing, exactly?



It's a question worth asking

I'm afraid the answer is somewhere between:

1. We've always done it that way (which is the worst reason to continue to do anything, IMO.)

2. Free daycare and lunches!
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:52 am to
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Not missing anything that they will miss - or anything they can't cover in a couple weeks at the start of next year.



That's not the point. Taxpayers pay all those education salaries and other costs in exchange for education being provided for a certain amount of time.

If the educators themselves don't see all of that time as being important, that's a big red flag.

It simply doesn't make sense to have a situation where they could open schools safely but choose not to for convenience.

Posted by Monkeyboy
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:52 am to
I asked some teachers I know if they think Louisiana is going to pass all students across the state and move everyone of them forward to the next grade. Their reply was that they hoped they didn't do that, saying that passing/failing should be on a case by case basis. According to them students have been in school long enough that teachers know who should be passed and forwarded to the next grade and who should repeat. If a student needs to be held back they should be allowed to be held back.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:53 am to
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yeah if you're from a home that isn't able to do distance learning, i can only imagine the negative impact this will have summer learning loss is a big issue and this is going to increase that gap a great deal


It is going to be brutal for a state like LA that already does a shitty job at public education even in the best of circumstances....BUT we should listen to all these wingnuts that say it doesn't matter.

ETA I just thankful that on top of my tax dollars going to public schools I can actually pay for my child to get a good education.
If my tax dollars weren't flowing to these failing institutions maybe I wouldn't care as much I guess.
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 8:54 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:53 am to
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heir reply was that they hoped they didn't do that, saying that passing/failing should be on a case by case basis. According to them students have been in school long enough that teachers know who should be passed and forwarded to the next grade and who should repeat.

good luck making that case
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:53 am to
Times like these are why I pay for school
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:55 am to
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It is going to be brutal for a state like LA that already does a shitty job at public education even in the best of circumstances

i don't' blame the LA government for our bad public education, for the most part...esp not teachers

like with COVID-19 itself, the effects of this policy are going to be felt much more harshly by those with the lower class mentality

Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:55 am to
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Times like these are why I pay for school


I certainly never thought of a damn pandemic when I put my child in private school....BUT it does make you appreciate that decision that much more
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:55 am to
1/4 of the year is important but they are missing less than that. Testing is a 3 week process and then the last 2 weeks of school is filler stuff. As I've stated, students missed about 4 weeks of new material. Not sure where some of y'all are getting the numbers.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:56 am to
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i don't' blame the LA government for our bad public education, for the most part...esp not teachers like with COVID-19 itself, the effects of this policy are going to be felt much more harshly by those with the lower class mentality


I wouldn't say that I blame the state for the parent's bad behavior...but I do blame them for enabling it to a large degree.
Posted by drhuggybear
Member since Mar 2009
339 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:56 am to
Now this is Texas so ...

My wife is a teacher and I asked something similar. Post spring break they have 2 weeks of "new content" teaching and the rest of the year is review and prep for the state mandated tests. So in essence they have only lost 2 weeks of new content.
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