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Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:00 pm to Soup Sammich
Joe Burrow
This post was edited on 4/11/20 at 9:47 am
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:21 pm to Soup Sammich
Sam and Mingo don’t need to be there. The D Line is Glenn Kyle Tyson and Marquis. That line is pushing.
I like Ali Highsmith over Minter. Fight over whether Bradie or Devin mans the middle but the loser plays outside, so probably Devin.
Tre white or Corey Webster? That’s tough.
I think Eric Reid sits this one out. Not on talent, just because in that secondary you want a Laron or Chad keeping receivers peripheral vision working. All of them hit but those two were different level.
Can’t complain about that offense.
Fun to think about
I like Ali Highsmith over Minter. Fight over whether Bradie or Devin mans the middle but the loser plays outside, so probably Devin.
Tre white or Corey Webster? That’s tough.
I think Eric Reid sits this one out. Not on talent, just because in that secondary you want a Laron or Chad keeping receivers peripheral vision working. All of them hit but those two were different level.
Can’t complain about that offense.
Fun to think about
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:55 pm to mettematt9
quote:
Sam and Mingo don’t need to be there. The D Line is Glenn Kyle Tyson and Marquis. That line is pushing. I like Ali Highsmith over Minter. Fight over whether Bradie or Devin mans the middle but the loser plays outside, so probably Devin. Tre white or Corey Webster? That’s tough. I think Eric Reid sits this one out. Not on talent, just because in that secondary you want a Laron or Chad keeping receivers peripheral vision working. All of them hit but those two were different level. Can’t complain about that offense. Fun to think about
I actually agree with pretty much all this. I tend to think that Minter is super underrated but maybe I’m overrating him. I’m trying to combine my opinion with crowdsourcing from posters to get the final roster. I’m open to constructive criticism. If anyone disagrees with someone I list I will definitely welcome listening to their argument for why their choice is a better option.
I’m pretty much trying to lean on college production over NFL production.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:55 pm to Soup Sammich
The LSU Single Season Sack record holder doesnt even deserve consideration?
Posted on 4/11/20 at 1:32 am to Soup Sammich
Kendall Beckwith
And if you go back 33 years Wendell Davis
And if you go back 33 years Wendell Davis
Posted on 4/11/20 at 4:04 am to PhillyFan1994
Yeah I like Arden Key in his sophomore year out there on the edge. At least on passing downs.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 8:35 am to mettematt9
Sorry but Marquise Hill doesn’t belong on this list.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:23 am to GorgeousGeorge
I knew I was forgetting someone. Arden Key does belong in the conversation.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:30 am to DaTiger
quote:are you 10? Seriously? Ever? WTF are you saying.
LSU’s best football players ever by position. (Last 30 years or so for my picks)
Thaddeus Moss is the best tight end to ever play at LSU.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:33 am to Soup Sammich
Chad Lavalais was the most dominant defensive tackle I’ve seen at LSU. If LSU had a high preseason ranking in 2003 like they did in 2007, Lavalais would have won every award that Dorsey won.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:43 am to Soup Sammich
Michael Brooks was as good a LB as LSU ever had before he blew out his knee. Back then ACL recovery was not what it is today. He was a beast. I take Brooks over Minter if I’m putting the best talent on the field.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:45 am to biglego
Dixon was very good too and would have flourished with Burrow at QB.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:47 am to FlyingTiger06
Michael Brooks was as good a LB as LSU has ever had. Then he blew out his knee. Dude was unconscious.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:11 am to Soup Sammich
First off this is predicated by stating, I’m old as dirt. Secondly, I’ve tried to consider the athlete above their peers and how dominating they were. For example, I left off the greatest full back in our history because he didn’t always “fit” starting 11. Hard to do when they were so important to the game for so long. So my list includes 1 extra player on each side to allow flexibility. I also tried to project their natural positions in the modern game.
This was HARD to do.
QB - Burrow (it is close between him and Jones IF you give them the same offense.
Hodson would have killed in this offense too. Tittle would have lit this up today. Dude was a passing machine for his time. It was air raid for that era to put it into perspective.
RB - Cannon (most of you never met him. If you did you would see why he played TE in the NFL and how fast he really was). Stovall and Faulk are close seconds
FB - Taylor (depends on the offense)
TE - Lafleur (Really wanted to put Billy Cannon here as well as Brian Kinchen and Robert Royal on that list. And to the guy that talked about Thad Moss, sorry kid but all these guys were far better)
Center - Mawae
Guards - Faneca, Andolsek
Tackles - Whitworth, Collins
WR - Chase, Davis, Landry
Defense (3-4)
Line: Henry Thomas, Dorsey, Kyle Williams,
Backers: White, Brooks, Eric Hill, Capone (probably the best most have never seen on here)
Corners: Peterson, Stingley (and I’m OLD. This kid has skills like I’ve never seen)
Nickle: Mathieu, Daniels (when they run drop 7 zone-match coverage)
Safeties: Casanova (putting him here because of his size and athleticism. He could be a hybrid safety/LB today and was one the best overall defensive player in LSU history until Stingley takes his place), Mathieu, ( when they run nickel coverage).
Punter; Wing
Kicker: Browndyke
Kick returner: Faulk
Punt Returner: (I would put Mathieu, but he is being protected) Todd Kinchen (he was close to being one of my receivers)
This was HARD to do.
QB - Burrow (it is close between him and Jones IF you give them the same offense.
Hodson would have killed in this offense too. Tittle would have lit this up today. Dude was a passing machine for his time. It was air raid for that era to put it into perspective.
RB - Cannon (most of you never met him. If you did you would see why he played TE in the NFL and how fast he really was). Stovall and Faulk are close seconds
FB - Taylor (depends on the offense)
TE - Lafleur (Really wanted to put Billy Cannon here as well as Brian Kinchen and Robert Royal on that list. And to the guy that talked about Thad Moss, sorry kid but all these guys were far better)
Center - Mawae
Guards - Faneca, Andolsek
Tackles - Whitworth, Collins
WR - Chase, Davis, Landry
Defense (3-4)
Line: Henry Thomas, Dorsey, Kyle Williams,
Backers: White, Brooks, Eric Hill, Capone (probably the best most have never seen on here)
Corners: Peterson, Stingley (and I’m OLD. This kid has skills like I’ve never seen)
Nickle: Mathieu, Daniels (when they run drop 7 zone-match coverage)
Safeties: Casanova (putting him here because of his size and athleticism. He could be a hybrid safety/LB today and was one the best overall defensive player in LSU history until Stingley takes his place), Mathieu, ( when they run nickel coverage).
Punter; Wing
Kicker: Browndyke
Kick returner: Faulk
Punt Returner: (I would put Mathieu, but he is being protected) Todd Kinchen (he was close to being one of my receivers)
This post was edited on 4/11/20 at 11:15 am
Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:42 am to Tiger1988
Tiger1988 Casanova never played a single down at LSU at Safety.
He Played CB on defense.
Steve Van Buren is mainly a rb, played LHB one year at LSU and blocking back the other years. He would go on to be called the best rb in pro football until Jim Brown came into the league.
He Played CB on defense.
Steve Van Buren is mainly a rb, played LHB one year at LSU and blocking back the other years. He would go on to be called the best rb in pro football until Jim Brown came into the league.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 11:05 am to tigger1
Man that runningbacks pool is tough to choose from. We've had to many beast back there. Faulk, Fournette, and Jeremy Hill are my top picks. If only Hill could've stayed one more year, him and Fournette in the backfield that year could have been just unfair to deal with.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 11:23 am to Soup Sammich
Because the game has changed "all-time" lists have to decide on criteria to account for that. Also, I think there was a definite change that accompanied integration. At LSU, that began in '72 (Mike Williams) and IMO, by '81, we were fully integrated.
So I think a pre-72 list would be one and another post-81 season. The decade in-between is tricky to handle. Some of the players in that time that would be under consideration on all-time great lists are:
Mike Willams-CB
Bert Jones-QB
AJ Duhe-DL (but played LB in the NFL)
Charles Alexander-RB
Hokie Gajan-RB (if FB is a position then Hokie is probably the best FB we've ever had)
Ken Bordelon-DE (played LB for the Saints)
Robert Dugas-OT (pretty decorated OL but not an all-time great IMO)
Chris Williams-CB
So I think a pre-72 list would be one and another post-81 season. The decade in-between is tricky to handle. Some of the players in that time that would be under consideration on all-time great lists are:
Mike Willams-CB
Bert Jones-QB
AJ Duhe-DL (but played LB in the NFL)
Charles Alexander-RB
Hokie Gajan-RB (if FB is a position then Hokie is probably the best FB we've ever had)
Ken Bordelon-DE (played LB for the Saints)
Robert Dugas-OT (pretty decorated OL but not an all-time great IMO)
Chris Williams-CB
Posted on 4/11/20 at 11:24 am to tigger1
quote:I know. What I did was type them on a list by group and thought about what position would fit them best today with their size and speed. The game has changed so much over the last 50+ years that I’ve watched that it is hard to make a single list. Maybe doing it by decade would have been better/easier.
Tiger1988 Casanova never played a single down at LSU at Safety.
For example, Cannon could have easily be put him at TE and not RB. He was great at one in college and excellent at the other in the Pros. Mawae played 1 year of center at LSU, so how would that make him the best ever? He only had a single year. A lot of these guys played multiple positions and those positions were not always well defined. HB could be a great receiver like Cannon, Faulk and Clyde EH was this past season. If you think about it Guice would have been brilliant as an HB with this offense.
Steve Van Buren was a cut and paste error - Thanks for the catch!. Wanted to run a zone and had him in at rb but somehow pasted him here and completely left Daniels off the list.
This post was edited on 4/11/20 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 4/11/20 at 11:44 am to Chipeace
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Ben > Mawae...
I don’t think Kevin played center in college although I have been wrong before....
No.
I'm pretty sure Kevin play every OL position at LSU and was the bright spot of the Curley era.
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