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re: Video: Fouci on Fox and friends gets really triggered about hydroxychloroquine
Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:46 pm to FlexDawg
Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:46 pm to FlexDawg
quote:Honestly, the studies so far are crap. They are. Doesn't mean hydroxychloroquine is not efficacious. It just has not been proven as such. That is what Fauci is grousing about. Actual decent controlled studies are underway. That is what Fauci is waiting on.
There are very promising studies
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:21 pm to NC_Tigah
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Honestly, the studies so far are crap. They are. Doesn't mean hydroxychloroquine is not efficacious. It just has not been proven as such. That is what Fauci is grousing about. Actual decent controlled studies are underway. That is what Fauci is waiting on.
Finally!!!
Guys these are scientist who want to be sure the data is sufficient to even recommend its use. I know you guys wish Laura Ingrahm was your nurse but she isn’t a nurse and has zero medical background. We need controlled studies.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:50 pm to NC_Tigah
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That is what Fauci is grousing about. Actual decent controlled studies are underway. That is what Fauci is waiting on.
So folks can die in the meantime
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:16 pm to NC_Tigah
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Honestly, the studies so far are crap.
Ridiculous.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:51 pm to NC_Tigah
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Honestly, the studies so far are crap. They are. Doesn't mean hydroxychloroquine is not efficacious. It just has not been proven as such. That is what Fauci is grousing about.
He's super intentional with his words which makes him difficult to interpret if you aren't used to listening/reading people who talk like him.
I agree, the data aren't great as it stands right now. We won't really know much of anything until well after the fact. Most critical care anecdotes I've heard (and these are guys I personally know, for the most part) aren't impressed with their results. Most of the NOLA guys I'm still in touch with don't see a big difference earlier on in the ones who got it vs different from what they've told me so far.
I guess they were right. Experience isn't something you can have until just after you need it.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 5:45 am to NC_Tigah
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Actual decent controlled studies are underway. That is what Fauci is waiting on.
Understand and agree. I just argue for compassionate use in a rational manner at the level of patient care. We just got our first patient in ICU and we are using it. I think we could have started when we had 10 positive patients on island.
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That is what Fauci is waiting on.
We quit nebulizations based on an unproven theory. This was based on risk. What are the risks of HCQ when prescribed based on H&P and positive results?
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:15 am to NC_Tigah
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It just has not been proven as such. That is what Fauci is grousing about. Actual decent controlled studies are underway. That is what Fauci is waiting on.
And that’s a problem with the medical community in a crisis. Yea... if this was about the common cold we need to wait for a study.
But I bet you walk into a patient’s room who is about to go on a vent and ask if they want to try it, but but it’s not been studied, then they would say “IDGAF about a study, let’s get started”
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