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re: Video: Fouci on Fox and friends gets really triggered about hydroxychloroquine
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:26 pm to Homesick Tiger
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:26 pm to Homesick Tiger
Something about this guy I just don't like...
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Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:26 pm to FlexDawg
Anyone who gets CB and doesn’t request to try hydroxychloroquine zpack zinc cocktail is crazy, especially if there reasoning is they want to wait on better studies.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:28 pm to TOKEN
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Honestly, the studies so far are crap. They are. Doesn't mean hydroxychloroquine is not efficacious. It just has not been proven as such. That is what Fauci is grousing about. Actual decent controlled studies are underway. That is what Fauci is waiting on.
If I am on a vent screw your controlled studies....I don't have time. 98% of those who go on a vent, die. With Covid it is pretty much a death sentence...Try SOMETHING.
PS I am a Nurse,unlike Ingram.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:36 pm to TOKEN
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Guys these are scientist who want to be sure the data is sufficient to even recommend its use. I know you guys wish Laura Ingrahm was your nurse but she isn’t a nurse and has zero medical background. We need controlled studies.
The critically ill patients are going to die without medical intervention, this drug combination seems to produce a positive outcome in critically ill cases. Do you believe just letting them die while waiting for controlled studies is the best thing to do?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:48 pm to TOKEN
He also did say use it. The FDA is not restricting it. Doctors can prescribe it if they want to.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:50 pm to NC_Tigah
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That is what Fauci is grousing about. Actual decent controlled studies are underway. That is what Fauci is waiting on.
So folks can die in the meantime
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:51 pm to FlexDawg
He trying to push the vaccine. He can’t admit that people are getting better because they are rushing the vaccine and there will be a huge push for everyone to get it before fall.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:16 pm to FlexDawg
Dr. Fauci says “we don’t operate on how you feel.” I’m sure his feelings have had no insertion into his recommendations. 
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:16 pm to NC_Tigah
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Honestly, the studies so far are crap.
Ridiculous.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:23 pm to Jyrdis
quote:This is his problem.
Dr. Fauci says “we don’t operate on how you feel
Any normal human can read a study.
It takes more than a retard to interpret it.
He’s been horrifically wrong this entire time. I have no idea why people feel the need to stick up for him at this point.
What in the hell has he offered?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:29 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
This is his problem.
Any normal human can read a study.
It takes more than a retard to interpret it.
He’s been horrifically wrong this entire time. I have no idea why people feel the need to stick up for him at this point.
What in the hell has he offered?
Absolutely. What hold does this man have on everybody? I'm not impressed with titles, give me results.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:47 pm to TOKEN
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Guys these are scientist who want to be sure the data is sufficient to even recommend its use. I know you guys wish Laura Ingrahm was your nurse but she isn’t a nurse and has zero medical background. We need controlled studies.
I can completely understand this. However, I think a lot of frustration is coming from the complete lack of information regarding what they are doing. How hard would it be to say:
“Anecdotal reports from doctors are not sufficient for a widespread recommendation for treatment. However, the anecdotal reports are encouraging, and it’s something we can’t afford to ignore, so we are currently doing studies A, B, and C. We hope to have those results in X weeks, and that will give us the data that we need to make a scientific determination about this drug as a treatment. In the meantime, the FDA has approved it for off label use, and all doctors are free to prescribe it as a treatment.”
When every question is just completely brushed off like whoever asked it is a dumbass, it doesn’t instill a lot of confidence that they are taking it seriously.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:25 pm to kilo
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Thats the definition of "really triggered"?
Look. I'm a die hard republican that voted for Trump but that man,in that specific interview, responding as an official federal government representative gave an appropriate response.
Wow
These people are idiots.
They just pull shite out of their arse.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:28 pm to ReauxlTide222
Yes, but Fauci appears to be the one in charge here rather than Trump. That needs to change.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:51 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Honestly, the studies so far are crap. They are. Doesn't mean hydroxychloroquine is not efficacious. It just has not been proven as such. That is what Fauci is grousing about.
He's super intentional with his words which makes him difficult to interpret if you aren't used to listening/reading people who talk like him.
I agree, the data aren't great as it stands right now. We won't really know much of anything until well after the fact. Most critical care anecdotes I've heard (and these are guys I personally know, for the most part) aren't impressed with their results. Most of the NOLA guys I'm still in touch with don't see a big difference earlier on in the ones who got it vs different from what they've told me so far.
I guess they were right. Experience isn't something you can have until just after you need it.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:52 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
Really, remove the guy that has been director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984, in the middle of a world wide pandemic?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:53 pm to FlexDawg
He's a freakin scientist and EVERYTHING has to be 100% precise data or it's wrong.There's no gray areas and there better in times like this.
Meanwhile it's a miracle drug to
the medical community in Italy,Spain and India.
He's a product of our federal medical bureaucracy complex which includes the NIH,CDC and FDA and they've been using a system that's been outdated for 40 years.
Let's face facts,ALL these institutions fricked up royally in the CV response and are now blaming China,each other or the administration.
NIH is supposed to recognize and detect these threats all over the globe before they reach our shores. Grade F
CDC is supposed to coordinate and control our response along with input from their global team. Grade D-
FDA (the worst)They are now delaying distilleries from making freakin ethanol HAND SANITIZER because of approval and inspection delays.Are you freakin kidding me?
Meanwhile it's a miracle drug to
the medical community in Italy,Spain and India.
He's a product of our federal medical bureaucracy complex which includes the NIH,CDC and FDA and they've been using a system that's been outdated for 40 years.
Let's face facts,ALL these institutions fricked up royally in the CV response and are now blaming China,each other or the administration.
NIH is supposed to recognize and detect these threats all over the globe before they reach our shores. Grade F
CDC is supposed to coordinate and control our response along with input from their global team. Grade D-
FDA (the worst)They are now delaying distilleries from making freakin ethanol HAND SANITIZER because of approval and inspection delays.Are you freakin kidding me?
Posted on 4/4/20 at 12:16 am to TOKEN
quote:you can't have it both ways. if this is a crisis, then you don't have time for that.
We need controlled studies
if this is not a crisis, then sure. let's wait. and no more need for cornteen
under normal circumstances i would agree with you. this is not a normal circumstance
Posted on 4/4/20 at 12:20 am to FlexDawg
I would really like a study across, say a 10 year period, before saying anything further.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 12:20 am to Dr Rosenrosen
quote:THIS is what i'm bothered by. i have never seen trump back down from someone. he was talking about easter and then came right back out with his tail between his legs being mealy mouthed. completely uncharacteristic
Yes, but Fauci appears to be the one in charge here rather than Trump. That needs to change.
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