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re: Are all hospitals truly at capacity?

Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:10 am to
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15515 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:10 am to
From what Ive heard from my aunt who works in the hospital. They are doing fine as far as bed and vent capacity. Where they are struggling with the most is staffing. With people quitting and the multiple people who begin to show symptoms and then have to be out of work for 2 weeks.

Again, this can be different around the country, though.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96696 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:10 am to
Nurses getting cut doesn’t mean much

We have nurses here in Nola being cut. We need nurses to work specifically icu/er. Other areas are getting cut left and right, and ideally we would want those nurses to shift over, but for obvious reasons that isn’t easy to convince
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48354 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:11 am to
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It’s simple. At capacity means when you can’t take on more patients

You know that’s what it means and you said it because that’s what you do


If you are taking spillover measures - like opening beds in the Convention Center - that means you've hit capacity, or gotten close enough to it, that it's necessary.

It's not the end of the world but there is no use downplaying the significance of those actions.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99788 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:11 am to
All? No.

Some in some hotspots? Yes.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96696 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:13 am to
I’m not downplaying the significance. Important measures were taken

But the fact is if you come into our hospitals in Nola needing a bed and/or a vent, you will get one. So in no way do I think saying we are at capacity makes sense at the moment
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48354 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:15 am to
quote:

But the fact is if you come into our hospitals in Nola needing a bed and/or a vent, you will get one. So in no way do I think saying we are at capacity makes sense at the moment


Because NOLA increased capacity.

Could New Orleans' regional system handle the current caseload without spillover measures?

No.

Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6087 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:15 am to
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hospital, and it's a ghost town. They've actually cut their RN's to 25 hours a week
SWLA is seeing the same.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
14158 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:16 am to
quote:

urses getting cut doesn’t mean much

We have nurses here in Nola being cut. We need nurses to work specifically icu/er.


Yep, they moved her to ICU/ER last week.
Posted by Tiger Roux
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4941 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:16 am to
NOLA has the convention center ready to go.
Not sure how they find the health care workers but they will have bed space.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164625 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:16 am to
Hospitals will be at capacity next week

Then when they aren't they will be at capacity the next week

Then when they aren't they will be at capacity the next week
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64647 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:16 am to
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With people quitting


Not to turn this into a generational war but dudes in their 20s are proving to be the biggest bunch of Karens out of all the folks in our place.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 9:18 am
Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
1975 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:16 am to
I think that overall this is good for our country. Sadly it involves fatalities, but so far it is nothing compared to flu deaths. It takes a crisis like this to wake up and shift focus on healthcare, infrastructure, manufacturing supplies within our borders, etc. This is a trial run to prepare for something far more serious with a much higher mortality rate. We will be better off in the future in responding to such a pandemic.

I am shocked at how well the common American bought into social distancing. There will always be the naysayers, but I work offshore and once we implemenred it the majority respected it. I was prepared for mass bitching of it being a conspiracy, gubment control, etc.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 9:18 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44337 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:17 am to
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Because NOLA increased capacity.

Could New Orleans' regional system handle the current caseload without spillover measures?


So NOLA currently has available beds and vents. What exactly are you arguing again?
Posted by Chef Free Gold Bloom
Wherever I’m needed
Member since Dec 2019
1364 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:18 am to
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In NOLA and NY, yes.


This is incorrect according to every doctor in New Orleans.

And I don’t know if you’re lieing in purpose or just passing along bad information but please stop.
Posted by TigerAlum1982
Member since Sep 2011
1442 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:19 am to
Friend of mine is a nurse at a hospital here in BR working in ICU unit for sickest coronavirus patients and she told me most of their patients are from NOLA.
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:20 am to
quote:

Italy and Spain. Both rates almost 30 spots higher than the US by the WHO for medical care system


How about we look at a more appropriate ranking:


quote:

According to a paper published in the Intensive Care Medicine journal utilizing 2012 data, Italy had 12.5 ICU beds per 100,000 of its population that year while Germany had 29.2 ICU beds per 100,000 inhabitants. A different paper published by the National Center for Biotechnology Information in 2015 states that capacity in the United States is even higher at 34.2 ICU beds per 100,000 people.

Source - Forbes
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48354 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:21 am to
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Not sure how they find the health care workers but they will have bed space.


That is probably going to be the biggest hurdle moving forward for the U.S.

Beds and vents are manageable but you need people that know how to treat the sick.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263211 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:24 am to
Most hospitals are well below capacity. Media takes a photo of random hospital in NYC and tries to convince you it's the norm.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:25 am to
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Italy and Spain.



bruh. the per capita death rates aren't even debatable here. pick a better argument.

quote:

Both rates almost 30 spots higher than the US by the WHO for medical care system


WHO? World Health Organization? that WHO?

Yesterday a top Japanese official (our ally) coined WHO as "China Health Organization". That isn't by accident either.

The same WHO who even as recent as mid January said COVID19 isn't spreadable by air?

The same WHO who ignored Taiwan completely when they were trying to alert them to the explosion of COVID outbreak in China in December?


sorry baw, but I'm going to take their word with a slight grain of salt for now.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
14158 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:25 am to
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lieing in purpose


I think we've found the OT genius....

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