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re: Refinance rates #2

Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5686 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:52 pm to
I thought mortgages tracked along the 10 yr? Which is up with the fed buying
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3844 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:54 pm to
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I was talking to the attorney, and he was telling me that the mortgage rates are climbing because of supply & demand. There are so many people refinancing that he lenders are inundated with applications. As a result, they started raising the rates to try to slow things down and catch up


Had almost the same exact discussion. People just assume that the fed cutting rates means lenders will which isn’t always the case.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5954 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:06 pm to
its all about the investors not the FED and investors do not like these super low rates.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6142 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:11 pm to
They aren't going much lower, if lower at all, than this. Liquidity trap. The risk alone of someone with good credit is probably close to 3%
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10776 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:26 pm to
Any idea what new 30yr fixed are sitting at.

Waiting on my buyers to quit dicking around so I can rate lock on my new home, missed the boat last week.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6142 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 4:20 pm to
3.75%ish?
I refied in 2012 at 2.9% for a 15 year.
The discount rate at that time was a little higher than it is now, but still below 1%.
Despite the 0% discount rate, I just don't see mortgage rates falling any lower - too much risk. Maybe they will do some deals on the edges (closing costs and other fees) - the new housing industry probably will eventually.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13685 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 4:23 pm to
I got a 30 year today at 3.5
Posted by HYDRebs
Houston
Member since Sep 2014
1274 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 4:38 pm to
Can probably get a purchase 30 yr as low as 3.250% today.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
12167 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:19 pm to
I was just offered 3.25%. I was hoping to find 3%. I'm currently at 3.75% on a 30 so I wonder if it's worth it. I need to see all the fees.
Posted by catfish 62
Atlanta
Member since Mar 2010
4984 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:00 pm to
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Had almost the same exact discussion. People just assume that the fed cutting rates means lenders will which isn’t always the case.


common misconception is that mortgage rates are based on fed funds. They follow the bond market and bond yields on mortgage backed securities.

While it is true that the recent supply is causing strain on brokers to get deals done and that is driving price up, it is also because the investor market is slow to buy these MBS's. The supply just grew 10x in a week and rates had been so low that investors weren't buying. As the recent refinances get scooped up in the investor market and shore up the supply along with the Fed's QE, rates should come back down a little. In the near term, I wouldn't expect to see a rate near 3-3.25% on a 30 year fixed.
Posted by wildcat3
Member since Jul 2011
148 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:00 pm to
I’m at 3.75 on a 15 year with 12 years left to go. With closing costs etc what interest rate would make sense to refi. I only owe about $80K.
Posted by HYDRebs
Houston
Member since Sep 2014
1274 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:06 pm to
Looking around2.5% ballpark for a worthwhile breakeven. Lower loan amounts breakeven is harder to meet as closing costs don’t scale up as fast as the interest does.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
32592 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 7:51 pm to
I got 3.175 from my credit union today on a 30 year fixed.
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
5003 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 9:09 pm to
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I got a 30 year today at 3.5


Credit issues?
Posted by SuddenJerk
Member since Oct 2017
730 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 9:25 pm to
I finished paperwork for a 15 year at 2.375 today. Not a definite lock yet, should know tomorrow.
Posted by TigerBite
Dallas
Member since Feb 2004
2558 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 9:34 pm to
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I finished paperwork for a 15 year at 2.375 today. Not a definite lock yet, should know tomorrow


Care to share the lender? This is pretty close to what may make sense.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
12167 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 9:35 pm to
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I got 3.175 from my credit union today on a 30 year fixed.

shite, I’d take that. Just found out the 3.25% I was offered came with 2 points
Posted by SuddenJerk
Member since Oct 2017
730 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 9:37 pm to
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Care to share the lender? This is pretty close to what may make sense.

Keesler Federal credit union.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17452 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 9:54 pm to
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hey come out i locked 2 loans and then rates got suspended.


quit lying. those would have been pulled if true
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
29141 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:02 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 6:33 am
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