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re: Covering 2nd base
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:34 am to GeismarGeauxer
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:34 am to GeismarGeauxer
On the bunt its between doughty and beloso, cant say on the other
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:04 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
In this scenario, you are right completely. The second baseman has to cover. If beloso charged like you said, it was a designed bunt coverage. So the second baseman either missed it or just didn't do his job.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:42 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
On second one, the SS has to get back to cover the 2B bag if there is no play to 3B. Once it was bunted to the Catcher, that should have happened.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:46 pm to Backntheday
Baseball is not my sport, but I do catch games at the Box. In the pass on a bunt when infielders charge, I have seen the center fielder in a dead run to cover second. It seemed odd at the time, but when I thought about it, it seemed logical. Remember, the batter reaching first only needs to see a guy on his way to cover second to stop him from trying to advance. Not blaming Mo, he is a freshman & didn't practice in the fall, but..... Next time we see that play, & we will, let's see who covers.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:57 pm to GeismarGeauxer
Most of the time, with a runner on second, the Pitcher covers the 3rd base side and the 1st baseman charges. The only time in that situation that the 3rd baseman field the bunt is if it’s bunted hard at him for an easy play. If the 3rd baseman charges then you can easily steal 3rd when the batter squares because 3rd base is left unoccupied.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 3:11 pm to RB10
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Was is a sac bunt or did the batter show late? From what I've read it doesn't sound like it was a sac
Oh it was a sac bunt. He was squared the second the pitcher got on the rubber.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 3:19 pm to GeismarGeauxer
In that situation, the 3B needs to hold his ground and not charge unless the bunt is right at him. The 1B should charge once the batter squares to bunt, and the 2B needs to cover 1st. If the bunt is at the 3B and he fields it, then the pitcher needs to cover 3B and the SS should be at 2B. That’s my take on how to play it.
It is not critical for the SS to cover at third because the runner will be safe anyway if the bunt is fielded by the third baseman. It is more critical for the SS to cover second in order to hold the runner at 1B and keep the inning ending double play in order.
It is not critical for the SS to cover at third because the runner will be safe anyway if the bunt is fielded by the third baseman. It is more critical for the SS to cover second in order to hold the runner at 1B and keep the inning ending double play in order.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 3:20 pm to tigerfan486
Correct. Mathis should have been covering second base.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 3:28 pm to bayoujd
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In that situation, the 3B needs to hold his ground and not charge unless the bunt is right at him. The 1B should charge once the batter squares to bunt, and the 2B needs to cover 1st. If the bunt is at the 3B and he fields it, then the pitcher needs to cover 3B and the SS should be at 2B. That’s my take on how to play it.
It is not critical for the SS to cover at third because the runner will be safe anyway if the bunt is fielded by the third baseman
Yeah, that's the usual play in that situation. Dugas charging from third is not the best option, because once he does Mathis has to get to third base. Otherwise they could just square to bunt, everybody crashes and the runner has a free steal of third base.
I don't think those blaming Mathis are being reasonable. They are asking him to get to third to cover, make sure the play isn't coming to third and then haul arse back to second. You just don't see that. He would be running to second base at the same time as the runner.
Dugas staying home, and Mathis to second was the right play. And if Dugas was going to charge, then Beloso had to stay home, and Doughty cover second.
I don't remember exactly how it played out, and how hard Dugas charged. Can't even remember who fielded the bunt, I want to say it was Garza. It was really a perfectly placed bunt.
If you want to completely sell out to try to stop the runner from getting to third and have the corners both crash, Hampton would have to cover second base.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 4:46 pm to GeismarGeauxer
Yikes! Twice in the same game. Hey coach pulmonary you need to fix this PDQ!
Posted on 2/20/20 at 4:50 pm to GeismarGeauxer
Yikes! Twice in the same game. Hey coach pulmonary you need to fix this PDQ!
Posted on 2/20/20 at 4:57 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Asking a lot of Mathis to get back to second. Best case is it's a foot race to the bag between Mathis and the runner.
Mathis has to run about 100 feet. The base runner has to run 180 feet. Plus, the baserunner doesn’t even see that second is unmanned until he legs it into the outfield, turns around, and starts trotting back. Not much of a footrace. Mathis could have opened a candy bar, taken a bite, then started for second and still would have beaten him.
I’m not saying it was Mathis’ fault. It seems logical that the centerfielder would have charged and covered. After all, what was he doing?
Posted on 2/20/20 at 5:00 pm to GeorgePaton
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Yikes! Twice in the same game. Hey coach pulmonary you need to fix this PDQ!quote:
Yikes! Twice in the same game. Hey coach pulmonary you need to fix this PDQ!
Yikes! Twice in the same thread. Hey GeorgePaton, you need to fix this PDQ!
Posted on 2/20/20 at 5:00 pm to Penrod
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I’m not saying it was Mathis’ fault. It seems logical that the centerfielder would have charged and covered. After all, what was he doing?
That’s very seldom a thing. The center fielder will back up a throw but you’re not going to see him covering a base. I’m of the personal opinion that Dugas didn’t realize he wasn’t supposed to charge.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 8:09 pm to GeismarGeauxer
I can tell you this...had it been Duplantiss, Stevenson, or Watson playing CF...tge base WOULD have been covered...what the hell else does the CF have to do during the bunt!
Posted on 2/20/20 at 8:55 pm to bayoujd
It depends what bunt play is called.
Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:27 am to TampaTiger22
Looked like a Chinese fire drill
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