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Going to ask a single, difficult question
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:32 pm
Once we started processing the handful or more of players, did we ever actually pick up any big names to replace them other than McGlothern (who I think is going to be a super star)? Dumervil and Webb were secret commits before all this went down (or at least the thought was LSU was in a strong position to land).
I'm not a fan of processing as many players as we did, with many of them Louisiana players that are now at SEC schools. And it looks like we may struggle to sign a full class.
I think this is a fair topic to discuss without it being about bashing O or denigrating this class. But, do you think O got a little ahead of himself?
I'm not a fan of processing as many players as we did, with many of them Louisiana players that are now at SEC schools. And it looks like we may struggle to sign a full class.
I think this is a fair topic to discuss without it being about bashing O or denigrating this class. But, do you think O got a little ahead of himself?
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Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:33 pm to cra_cra
Stop
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:34 pm to cra_cra
Maybe we got players that were more important to this class and ranked higher according to the coaches internal rankings 
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:35 pm to cra_cra
quote:
Once we started processing the handful or more of players
I think this is a fair topic to discuss without it being about bashing O or denigrating this class. But, do you think O got a little ahead of himself?
Asking a player to wait until February to sign is not considered processing in my book. It is being precaustionary and doing what is best for the program. If they had waited there may be a spot for them.
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:35 pm to cra_cra
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And it looks like we may struggle to sign a full class.
We could sign a full class if we wanted to. We’re playing the home run card for Burch and Jackson, if not, we will either get JUCO guys, transfers, or hold the spots for later.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:38 pm to cra_cra
Lets save all the class discussions until after signing day. We only have 24 more hours
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:39 pm to cra_cra
Adams was picked up after Jarrett and Burton decomitted.
Bradford was picked up as a replacement for Evans.
McGlothern was maybe the guy the staff wanted to play a more versatile secondary role than Burns.
The idea that we had a full class and 5 more players begging to be a part of this class is surely hyperbole.
I’m sure with the benefit of hindsight some more players would have been a part of this class.
Bradford was picked up as a replacement for Evans.
McGlothern was maybe the guy the staff wanted to play a more versatile secondary role than Burns.
The idea that we had a full class and 5 more players begging to be a part of this class is surely hyperbole.
I’m sure with the benefit of hindsight some more players would have been a part of this class.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:49 pm to cra_cra
The reality is, in order to pull off what Bama does (and a few others sometimes) - in attaining the best case scenario after missing on a higher priority recruit, you have to be willing to really hurt some kids ON signing day.
You have to keep those on-the-bubble kids happy, committed, and thinking they’ll be signing on signing day... till you get that higher priority recruit earlier that day.
And that’s when you have to tell the lesser recruit “sorry, we don’t have a spot for you”.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:52 pm to cra_cra
Meanwhile in a parallel universe, CRA-CRA posts the following on the TIGERSHITTINGS recruiting board:
quote:
Once we signed the handful of marginal LA recruits to complete our early signing class, did we lose on any big name like McGlothern (who I think is going to be a super star)? Burch didn't sign and neither did Van Pran who lost his position coach. We should have been in a strong position to land these guys.
I'm not a fan of jumping the gun to fill the class with lesser prospects when we have a chance at filling up with better prospects. It looks like the full class is limiting us.
I think this is a fair topic to discuss without it being about bashing O or denigrating this class. But, do you think O got a little ahead of himself?
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:53 pm to cra_cra
Yes
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:20 pm to cra_cra
I hope that next year we have extra spots open and can fill the whole class up with studs and so many of you will eat your words
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:20 pm to cra_cra
quote:Who did we process and how do you know they were processed?
Once we started processing the handful or more of players
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:26 pm to cra_cra
I’d argue that it appears that O’s strategy is similar to Clemson’s strategy prior to this year. Get the most high quality recruits you can but don’t settle on players just fill the class.
Basically if there is a bigger fish we think we have a shot at, go after the bigger fish and if we miss then we will figure it out. But don’t limit yourself by signing lower quality players just for numbers sake.
Obviously this plan is dependent on needs as well. For example we needed QBs in this class so we signed 2 guys with tons of potential even though they aren’t can’t miss type guys.
On the flip side, we signed 3 DTs so we didn’t need to keep Jordan Berry or Jalen Lee in the class just to sign guys. We’d add a 4th DT if it was a better prospect like Jackson but it really wasn’t a need.
Let me add that I have zero inside knowledge, this is just my attempt at connecting the dots of the decisions that were made.
Basically if there is a bigger fish we think we have a shot at, go after the bigger fish and if we miss then we will figure it out. But don’t limit yourself by signing lower quality players just for numbers sake.
Obviously this plan is dependent on needs as well. For example we needed QBs in this class so we signed 2 guys with tons of potential even though they aren’t can’t miss type guys.
On the flip side, we signed 3 DTs so we didn’t need to keep Jordan Berry or Jalen Lee in the class just to sign guys. We’d add a 4th DT if it was a better prospect like Jackson but it really wasn’t a need.
Let me add that I have zero inside knowledge, this is just my attempt at connecting the dots of the decisions that were made.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:59 pm to cra_cra
quote:
I think this is a fair topic to discuss without it being about bashing O or denigrating this class. But, do you think O got a little ahead of himself?
Its foolish to respond to such a thread until the signing class is finished.
No one knows except O and he ain't telling.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 3:05 pm to cra_cra
Why sign players that you are confident won’t see the field in an LSU uniform because you think they aren’t good enough? I think LSU did them a favor
Posted on 2/4/20 at 3:40 pm to cra_cra
Actually I agree with you. I would have cut off a body part to play at LSU (of course my brother did with no effort and pissed it away)
If I was good enough to play at LSU and I lost a spot so that LSU could take a chance at “bigger better deal” and I then went to rival school, I would do anything and everything, no matter what to make them regret that discussion, if it took me a lifetime.
If I was good enough to play at LSU and I lost a spot so that LSU could take a chance at “bigger better deal” and I then went to rival school, I would do anything and everything, no matter what to make them regret that discussion, if it took me a lifetime.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 5:59 pm to cra_cra
quote:My opinion on this mirrors Ripley's:
I think this is a fair topic to discuss without it being about bashing O or denigrating this class. But, do you think O got a little ahead of himself?
quote:In short, which I've not feared saying on here before: We have to be more ruthless. And yes, in my opinion, CEO got ahead of himself- he should have waited. At least on some; others the timing was fine (looking at you Clowney).
The reality is, in order to pull off what Bama does (and a few others sometimes) - in attaining the best case scenario after missing on a higher priority recruit, you have to be willing to really hurt some kids ON signing day.
You have to keep those on-the-bubble kids happy, committed, and thinking they’ll be signing on signing day... till you get that higher priority recruit earlier that day.
And that’s when you have to tell the lesser recruit “sorry, we don’t have a spot for you”.
At the same time this is still true:
quote:It's not processing. It's one of a few limited options that's been around forever (ever since the NCAA crushed the PWO for pay 'loophole'- thanks Nebraska). It's just how recruiting works.
Asking a player to wait until February to sign is not considered processing in my book. It is being precaustionary and doing what is best for the program. If they had waited there may be a spot for them.
Now, if the earlier in the year 'processing' was done in conjunction with the ESD I can see it being a more viable strategy. Again, you still have to be pretty ruthless. For example, you can tell 5* Recruit A that you'll cut 4* Recruit B loose IF, and only if, he signs in ESD. If not, 4* Recruit B gets the chance on day 2 of ESD. This more closely resembles the Clemson strategy rather than Bama.
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