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UPDATE Defense Rests: Harvey should walk

Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:21 pm
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
11668 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:21 pm
This dude is a freak and scumbag no doubt.


But lord, the excerpts of one of the main accusers Jessica Mann- is making it hard to convict this guy.

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Earlier, Rotunno pointed out to Mann that on at least five occasions between 2013 and 2017, she changed her phone number, but sent it to Weinstein each time.


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Under cross-examination, Mann elaborated on how she would sometimes “role play” with Weinstein.



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When Rotunno asked Mann if she was “happy” to engage in sexual encounters with Weinstein, Mann responded, “I wasn’t happy to do it … oftentimes there would be a negotiation.”


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“The more I realized I was just being used, I tried not to have sexual encounters with him … sometimes he just wanted to masturbate while holding me,” said Mann, who has admitted that she has had consensual sexual encounters with Weinstein.


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Mann later said she “engaged with my abuser because of what I believed in my mind and the perception of the society I lived in … it was always in my best interest to feel that the temperature gauge between us was going to be okay.”




Can you really convict a man for rape with testimony like this?


**Oh and she testified that the day after the alleged rape at the Doubletree, she emailed him because her mom wanted to meet him.



This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 1:16 pm
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34082 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:22 pm to
He is most certianl a creep, but this is sounding more and more like "regret rape."
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30543 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:22 pm to
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“I wasn’t happy to do it … oftentimes there would be a negotiation.”


Sounds like a whore...

“The more I realized I was just being used, I tried not to have sexual encounters with him …

Sounds like a jilted lover...

Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107023 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:23 pm to
Are Dems impeaching Trump to distract from the Epstein trial?

Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52352 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:25 pm to
THis is easy to figure out.


She was fricking him in hopes of major movie roles.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103125 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:25 pm to
Appears to have worked for Gretchen Mol.

Because I can’t think of any other reason she appeared in Rounders with all that hype.
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
11668 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:27 pm to
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e is most certianl a creep, but this is sounding more and more like "regret rape."




That’s what it sounds like to me.


I don’t know who this Mann woman is or what parts she landed, but it does sound like she has some sour grapes.

The lack of her notoriety to me tells me that she is pissed that she did some nasty things with Harv with the hopes she would be some A list actress and she didn’t even make the D list. So now she is pissed at him for not making her a star.
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 1:28 pm
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34107 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:28 pm to
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He is most certianl a creep, but this is sounding more and more like "regret rape."


It's not so much "regret rape" as it it's now "noble" to be a virtue signaling "victim". I'm not saying what he did was right, but women banging men in powerful positions to advance their careers/lives is a quid pro quo relationship that's been going on since the beginning of humanity. No one was raped in the traditional sense of the word. It was a fully consensual, mutually beneficial exchange.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103125 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:28 pm to
Potted Plant Lives Matter too!
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14918 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:29 pm to
Probably aren't a lot of unwitting victims in Hollywood.

If you're negotiating with a known creep and your body is part of the transaction then live with your decision.

I see this trial as an indictment of a sick and perverse industry.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:34 pm to
Dude is a creep but, it's hilarious. In the rest of the normal sane world, "hey, I'll frick you if you give me XYZ" already has a word for it.

And it ain't "rape victim".
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30425 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:37 pm to
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He is most certianl a creep, but this is sounding more and more like "regret rape."


Not "regret rape".

More like, "regret fricking a nasty dude for a role".
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:38 pm to
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More like, "regret fricking a nasty dude for a role".


Or, "regret fricking nasty dude thinking it would get me a role and then it didn't".

Either way. We already have a word for it.

Prostitute
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103125 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:39 pm to
As Churchill would say, “We’ve established what you are, we are now just negotiating a price.”
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:42 pm to
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As Churchill would say, “We’ve established what you are, we are now just negotiating a price.”


We've developed this weird culture where supposedly modern women claim two mutually exclusive ideas to be true.

1. "Women should be treated as equals to men and are just as capable of men in terms of thinking and decision making".

2. "Men should be held criminally liable when women make foolish decisions and frick them thinking they'll get something out of it because if a man does this, he's 'manipulated' her into having sex".

Either women are helpless little naïve children or, they're "strong and to be respected".

They can't fricking claim both!
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103125 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:44 pm to
Yes they can, as the women doing it are Democrats.

Since when can Democrats NOT take two mutually exclusive stances at the same time?
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30609 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:55 pm to
there was a quote from some woman, who claimed he had no penis, but had a vagina.


Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92490 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:59 pm to
Slut regret is real boyz
Posted by PickupAutist
Member since Sep 2018
3038 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:59 pm to
There are plenty of whores in the giant glorified brothel that is hollywood that know the deal. However, there were also probably a few who really were surprised when what seemed to be a professional chat turned into rape because somehow trading sex for fame was the furthest thing from their minds. Or maybe they were planning to, then balked when they saw how ugly he was, and he took what he wanted anyway. I have no doubt he probably raped several women in his younger days even if not these particular broads, and I hope he goes to prison.
Posted by PickupAutist
Member since Sep 2018
3038 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 2:04 pm to
Some other interesting revelations:
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Mann testified that Weinstein would say things like, “Do you like my big fat Jewish d-ck?” to her and, one time, peed on her.

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She also said the first time she saw Weinstein fully naked, she said she thought he was “deformed” because he had “extreme scarring” and did not have any testicles. (Weinstein, watching Mann testify, quickly put his head in his hands and started shaking his head.)
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