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re: Old man river on the rise

Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:41 am to
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:41 am to
How's Oktibbhea County Lake Damn doing? There were reports of an imminent failure yesterday.

Steele Bayou control structure closed yesterday as well.

Fingers crossed that this spring isnt as crazy as last year.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:27 am to
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This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 10:30 am
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:29 am to
Just a heads up. One of my nephews smoked the catfish on trot lines on Old River.
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
5787 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:45 am to
I wonder how many decades it will take the corps to study the River from Memphis down and decide it's silting in and dredge it out to New orleans to give the river some free board again.

The river constantly at or around flood stage is insane and just not good for the levee system long term. The cost to dredge would be cheaper than when the levees begin to fail and the lawsuits that will follow.
Posted by Tdot_RiverDawg
Member since May 2015
1705 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:47 am to
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Steele Bayou control structure closed yesterday as well.


FUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKK...not good.



Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30873 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:49 am to
quote:

Just a heads up. One of my nephews smoked the catfish on trot lines on Old River.
time to dust them off...
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:03 am to
Let’s just say there is research happening...
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:16 am to
quote:

The cost to dredge would be cheaper


Probably so but it damn sure will not be cheap, issue #1 is where to put the spoil and how to get it there.

I am just a guy with an opinion but keeping the river as low as possible during low water by opening the flood control structures may acomplish far more than a fleet of dredges. This will force the turbulance closer to the sediment and let it do the work by erosion but that will cause river traffic issues so
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5162 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:00 am to
quote:

Probably so but it damn sure will not be cheap, issue #1 is where to put the spoil and how to get it there.


Put it on barges Float it down the river and build some land with it

The river is sediment full and our marshes and estuaries are sediment starved. Almost seems too easy
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 11:02 am
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37384 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:10 am to
Extended forecasts show it falling towards the end of the month.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:15 am to
quote:

Put it on barges Float it down the river and build some land with it


Sounds good brother but I dont believe every barge on earth working around the clock could make a dent in the trillions of cubic feet needed to be moved.

ETA: I went and looked to make sure I was not OTT on the trillions of cubic feet and it looks like I was far underestimating it.

quote:

The sediment buildup – estimated at some 36 million metric tons – increases the possibility that a future “mega flood” could overwhelm the structures, triggering a full capture of the flow by the Atchafalaya, with dire consequences for Louisiana’s people and economy, the study warns.

In addition to the bottom sediment, Xu identified some 530 million metric tons of sand on emerged river bars upstream between Old River and Vicksburg. If those were to be mobilized and swept downstream by a flood, they would impede the flow even more and potentially trigger the river to jump its bank around Old River.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 11:20 am
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:25 am to
Dredging in Louisiana is usually typified by not having good material to build land with. Almost everywhere else the problem is where to put it. We’ll face that same issue that far up in the river.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:45 am to
quote:

Dredging in Louisiana is usually typified by not having good material to build land with. Almost everywhere else the problem is where to put it. We’ll face that same issue that far up in the river.




Mt. Morganza, the newest LA tourist destination and the highest point in the South East.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14257 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 12:33 pm to
Seems like a fast change? Any thoughts on a possible huge sediment dump due to the 2011 flood?

Could dredge it and pile it on the levees baw.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 12:35 pm
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6514 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:30 pm to
Ill take some dirt
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10511 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

Probably so but it damn sure will not be cheap


When this happens, we are shutting down the pipeline division and getting back into marine work.

I'll be rich bitch.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

Ill take some dirt



I wonder what the quality of the sediment is? Mostly sand isn't going to very desirable to dump somewhere.
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:52 pm to
Way early for the river to be this high. Wonder if we will see the Morganza actually be used.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 5:11 am to
My daughter and SIL own a bunch of land in between the levee and the river. They sell a shite load of river sand a year. Every time the river rises, it fills back in.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
13265 posts
Posted on 1/17/20 at 6:39 am to
River silt is great shite. Easily spreadable yet fertile.
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