re: Who here is in a union? Do you feel it helps or hurts?

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A lot of conservatives i know poopoo unions, right up until the point that they need one to go to bat for them.. Perfect example, i have an uncle who is a big MAGA guy, works at a plant and got fired.. he claimed it was an unjust firing and the union he was mandatorily required to be a part of took his case and fought for his back pay, job reinstatement etc... My uncle got what he was fairly entitled to, but still talks ish about unions.. Typical hypocrisy.

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While that is one case that I guess you can say it was worth it, most of the time it is not. What I see is unions protecting the lazy who don't do their jobs. They had their time and were effective. Now, not so much.

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This country was built on unions.. You can thank unions for having a the weekend off and a 40 hr (in most cases) standard work week.

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My dad worked his whole life in pipefitters union starting back in the 50's, I did for a short time. However, the unions suffered when they were forced to integrate. Suddenly, they were taking in people off the streets to fill quotas mandated by the feds. My Dad saw it happen and what it did to workers. People brought in were suddenly making the same money as skilled welders and pipefitters but not doing any work, so all production slowed down.
Back in the early years of the 20th century, unions did good, however, in today's world, they have outlived there usefulness. Look at what they have done to the auto industry in this country- holding the car companies for ransom!

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Perfect example, i have an uncle who is a big MAGA guy, works at a plant and got fired.. he claimed it was an unjust firing and the union he was mandatorily required to be a part of took his case and fought for his back pay, job reinstatement etc... My uncle got what he was fairly entitled to, but still talks ish about unions.. Typical hypocrisy.

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You base this opinion on your Uncle telling you his side of the story. Maybe your Uncle is a lazy or lying POS and misrepresented his side of the issue to you all.

That would mean the Union forced his employer to take back a POS.

Unions are more worried about their own survival than the well-being of the workers they are supposed to represent. And (almost without historical exception) just about all Unions could give zero fricks about the health and viability of the firms that their members work for.

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This country was built on unions.. You can thank unions for having a the weekend off and a 40 hr (in most cases) standard work week.

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Maybe. But they’re now that we’ve pretty much gotten what we’ve wanted and as long as the place doesn’t treat you like shite, there’s really no point in them anymore. Other than maybe a tiny bit of seniority protection. That’s about it. Union heads have all the leverage now. Speak up and want something changed and they strike you down in a heartbeat.

I’m part of a local union, but no one gives a frick about them as long as they give us an annual raise, no one uses them or cares about them around here.

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You can thank unions for having a the weekend off and a 40 hr (in most cases) standard work week.

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And now all the stuff unions fought for are federal law. Unions are rarely good for anything nowadays, and I speak as someone who grew up in a union household, and as a former union member.

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This country was built on unions

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While somewhat true, pressuring politicians to create favorable workplace laws is what happened. The laws are there now, the regulations are deep, and we don’t need unions for that anymore. In my case of being a union worker for over a decade, it seemed toothless and counter productive 90% of the time, and union leadership did very little in reality while being more concerned with merging with other unions and holding places of bullshite power. A lot like politicians.