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Trump gas prices have been a huge “tax cut”

Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:46 pm
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:46 pm
Obama had 4 years with gas prices over $3 average.... Trump hasn’t had 1, and gas prices for the most part have been extremely stable.

A lot of people overlook this fact as to why the economy is doing so well. People have more $ in their pockets and are spending it and juicing the economy or saving it (savings rate has ticked up too).
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11912 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:48 pm to
Stop giving the government credit for technological advancements they had nothing to do with.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19019 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 1:01 pm to
Trump is responsible for packing FERC with pro energy individuals. Heck we went from disallowing pipelines, LNG plants, drilling to.....if I was living in west Texas I would not go on vacation, those fellas would approve drilling in my front yard and a pipeline in the back!!

He also passed writing off capital in one year versus depreciating it, a big deal in a capital intensive industry like oil and gas.

So he may not have invented fracking tech, but he sure stopped blocking it from succeeding.

This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
4901 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 1:03 pm to
I think I remember the Trump ‘gas price cut’ legislation now. No Democrats voted for that.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11912 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 1:05 pm to
I completely agree on the regulation issues Obama had. Restricting pipelines and his attack on offshore drilling were weak. He only made one good decision on energy policy when they allowed for LNG exports. But there were major market forces at work now and then that have a much larger effect on the price of oil.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 1:24 pm to
Seems like the new price ceiling for oil is in the $60 to $75 range.

This is because if it gets higher than shale oil becomes more profitable and will flood the market. The Saudis seem more than content to sell at this price in order to make other plays riskier.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 1:58 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 9:24 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116879 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 2:07 pm to
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The Strategic Petroleum Reserve has been selling oil frequently. That’s why it’s been so low. Trump Admin has sought to draw down the reserves.


Uh, no. The SPR was designed for Saudi boycotts. There is no need for one now. The oil prices are lower because the US is self sufficient plus an exporter. This will not change until a Democrat/Communist is elected president.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12891 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 2:09 pm to
Yeah. You’re right dude. I don’t know what’s going on at all.

fricking dolt.
This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 2:10 pm
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 2:11 pm to
The thing about this fricking site is you never know who you’re taking to.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116879 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 2:33 pm to
I'm Zach. What do you want to know about the SPR? I was studying it when it was created.
Posted by SnarkOff
Member since Dec 2019
10 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 3:09 pm to
It's helped me a lot
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Trump is responsible for packing FERC with pro energy individuals. Heck we went from disallowing pipelines, LNG plants, drilling to.....if I was living in west Texas I would not go on vacation, those fellas would approve drilling in my front yard and a pipeline in the back!!

He also passed writing off capital in one year versus depreciating it, a big deal in a capital intensive industry like oil and gas.

So he may not have invented fracking tech, but he sure stopped blocking it from succeeding.


Has hardly anything to do with current prices....the energy industry, with a huge step change in tech, has nearly drilled itself into bankruptcy.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12891 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

What do you want to know about the SPR? I was studying it when it was created.


LOL ok. You’re still a dummy. Look at the sell logs for the past three years and get back to me.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52412 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 4:45 pm to
That kinda happens when you have a POTUS with the balls to stand up to the climate nazis and the OPEC cartel and not let them hold our economy hostage using manipulative oil policies.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

That kinda happens when you have a POTUS with the balls to stand up to the climate nazis and the OPEC cartel and not let them hold our economy hostage using manipulative oil policies.



Mythology.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35248 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 6:47 pm to
Well is he that bull in a china cabinet, or not?

Or is he standoffish and yielding??

Make yall mind up.

Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 6:56 pm to
One of the big things pushing this along is the lifting of the export ban, without that every US rig would have been stacked long ago.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103197 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 7:03 pm to
The Saudis are in the process of selling a good chunk of Aramco off to fund investment in other industries and selling at this price point is something they can survive but which hurts a number of other producers like Russia, Venezuela, Iran, etc.

They like high gas prices but, at the same time, they can weather lower ones in the process of running their competition out of the market. There will still be producers in those countries but there may be new governments there at some point because their budgets need high oil prices.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

The Saudis are in the process of selling a good chunk of Aramco off to fund investment


Few things

One, it is a done deal and 2 it is 1.5% of the company, you decide if that is a "good chunk" or not, it aint in my book.
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