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Democrat Defections From Impeachment

Posted on 12/12/19 at 7:34 am
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 7:34 am
They know it's coming. If they are already leaking it, it's got to be worse than the small handful they've tried to portray it as. It must be enough that they are actually worried the Impeachment vote might fail.

If the vote fails, will the melt be bigger or worse than Election Night 2016?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50115 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 7:38 am to
Not giving Bezos any more money than I have to through Amazon.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45829 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 7:38 am to
No way this doesn't pass the House.
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4222 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 7:44 am to
They had better make sure it fails. They don't want a trial in the Senate. This has just been a show throw mud. It won't pass.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67517 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 7:47 am to
quote:

Democrat Defections

2 things:
First I'll believe it when I see it
Second, I don't think they're smart enough to defect
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21540 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 7:49 am to
The vote will pass with no more than 3 defections.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79411 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 7:51 am to
quote:

some have been surprised that support hasn’t increased despite negative testimony about Trump from a series of blockbuster hearings last month.


Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26790 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 7:54 am to
The vote will pass judiciary and the full house. They wouldn’t have brought it to this point if they didn’t have the votes
Posted by lsutiger90
Cottage Grove, Houston, TX
Member since May 2004
1018 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 8:18 am to
What if a few R’s state openly that they want this in the senate to expose how much of a shitshow this is, so just enough to make sure it passes, but openly stating they oppose impeachment but want the D’s to get what’s coming. That would eliminate the “bi-partisan” support argument the D’s will try to claim.

After yesterday’s fiasco of a hearing for the Dim’s, you would think another fair open hearing in the senate is tha last thing they’d ever want!
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 8:29 am to
quote:

I think that there are some decisions that leaders are asked to make that are often controversial and difficult and hard to understand for lots of people, but the leader has to make it because they know it’s the right thing to do,” said the former CIA officer. “And I am very comfortable in doing that because my world is national security.”


You are not a leader, you are a representative.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20496 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 8:34 am to
I think the vote has a decent chance of failing in the House. When it comes down to the individual Reps from purple districts, they'll have to decide which is more important to their political survival - towing the party line, or actually taking into consideration what their constituents want. It will be interesting as hell, no matter what.

They have to know what the real poll numbers are. The more they push this thing, the stronger Trump gets. Some of the ones not totally invested in this may defect. The ones who are totally invested will have to go down with the ship.

This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 8:37 am
Posted by Jeff Boomhauer
Arlen, TX
Member since Jun 2016
3552 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Slotkin, who represents a Trump district, said she has not decided how she will vote. While her district is “overall not supportive of impeachment,” she said some votes require members to go with their gut over constituents’ wishes.
“I think that there are some decisions that leaders are asked to make that are often controversial and difficult and hard to understand for lots of people but the leader has to make it because they know it’s the right thing to do,” said the former CIA officer.


These are the most telling two paragraphs, IMO. This democrat believes she knows better than her constituents because, as she clearly says, they’re not smart enough to understand. It’s obvious that she sees herself as representing the CIA instead of her district.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19592 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 10:07 am to

The DNC will crack the whip to make it happen, just like the Obamacare vote in 2009.

Political careers were destroyed, but the DNC got their way.
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