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If this is the Saints offense.....

Posted on 12/9/19 at 9:49 pm
Posted by BayouRat15
DAUPHIN ISLAND,AL
Member since Jan 2004
10182 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 9:49 pm
Where the Hell is the screen pass to Clyde?

I know it was ran at the beginning of the season a few times. Maybe the secret playbook has not fully been used yet?

And....this is all I got Hoss
Standing by...The WestEnd of Dauphin Island
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
21069 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 9:50 pm to
Are we supposed to run plays just to run them?
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73733 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 9:51 pm to
it is the only thing we have left to use.

we used it against GSU. i have been clamoring for RB screens for ages now. only 2 games left? sandbagging?

we did not use any seams like saints until ole miss and no posts until arky.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279488 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 9:53 pm to
They’ve ran two recently for like zero yards

It’s not as of an effective post from the shotgun
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28505 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

Saints offense

This may be the saints offense circa 2009-13, but its definitely not the saints offense of the past few years.

How many times do the saints run 4 and 5 wide anymore? Te seam routes for LSU?

I guess the route tree is pretty similar as well as the routes CEH runs from the back field

Honestly It's a lazy comparasion
This post was edited on 12/9/19 at 10:02 pm
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11880 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:02 pm to
Teams with good defenses have used several versions of rush 3-4 with spy, press man, and deep zone.
Try to get negative plays and incompletions and gang tackle clyde. That's about the only way to stop burrow.

Screen passes dont typically work well against that.

The rest of the teams that dont have a defense that matches up... why should you take the risk of a screen when you can just hand it off to clyde for huge chunk runs?
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
8829 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:05 pm to
No need to call a screen pass when we can go 5 wide, and line CEH in the slot to take advantage of the LB covering him. The Joe Brady / Saints passing game is all about finding mis-matches and exploiting them. Nobody in CFB can guard CEH 1 on 1 in the open field
Posted by LSU in Frisco TX
In the Green
Member since Oct 2006
752 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

Where the Hell is the screen pass to Clyde?


All our other shite is working so well. Why change it?
Posted by jyoung1
Lafayette
Member since May 2010
2130 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:08 pm to
Very hard to perfect like the saints do. Takes perfect timing and coordination, must not be doing it well vs our defense in practice.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7646 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:19 pm to
It's not the Saints offense. The saints run alot of I formation, two tight end sets with a full back.

LSU doesn't

The Saints go under center.

LSU doesnt

The route tree and concepts are similar but this is far from the Saints offense
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30089 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 11:00 pm to
Clyde has like 50 catches this year.

I don’t know the record but that has to be up there for most ever by an LSU RB

Who cares about a screen when he’s catching balls over the middle on LBers and getting 15 yards
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 11:17 pm to
rb screens are usually called on 3rd down. I think E calls 3rd plays
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 2:57 am to
This is not the saints offense. Everyone says this but JB brought concepts to LSU of the saints offense. People need to watch the saints games bc our offenses aren’t the same. DB runs tons of play action from under center. They run max protect a ton.
Posted by KingDaddyRabbit
Angola State Prison
Member since Oct 2019
1124 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:07 am to
This is another one of those posts that are so damn dumb that you click on them just to downvote.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13339 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:58 am to
We've run it a fair amount, especially if you compare to the previous couple of years. However, couple of notes:

A) It's probably a read, if we suspect zone it's not an option on read/audible.

B) Most of our check downs are in the middle of the field with a reciever (including RB & TE) entering the zone late after a clear out by WR. This is something that most don't realize and most teams can't/won't do. If pressure comes from outside, we're going to look to the middle (step up in pocket) and RB/TE might chip but isn't going to worry about that pressure and be the late route in the middle. This is the scenario where you pre-guess and run wide screens. I.e., our reads and post-snap adjustments 'override' that pre-snap guess; it is a better option.

C) In the grand scheme of things when we have other reads/plays working for us, the RB screen wide is just not that effective comparatively. For us, in this offense, the RB screen is a setup play for other-better plays. Hence the sparing use.

D) Lol, we still don't run them very well. Better, but instead of a bread and butter play it's a hard tack and salt play for us. It's the play that got Emery in trouble.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50556 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 8:19 am to
There is so much LSU still hasn't done with this offense.

Let that sink in for a bit.

No, this isn't like the secret playbook from the Miles regime either. This is real.
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