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House Judiciary Committee Open Hearing 10AM EST
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:05 am
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:05 am
The committee will have 4 "witnesses" today. Below are the 4 and what they are expected to say in opening statements. Johnathan Turley is the lone Republican "witness" today.
Noah Feldman of Harvard Law School
"President Trump’s conduct described in the testimony and evidence clearly constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under the Constitution."
"By freezing aid to Ukraine and by dangling the promise of a White House visit, the President was corruptly using the powers of the presidency for personal political gain."
Pamela S. Karlan of Stanford Law School
"Based on the evidentiary record, what has happened in the case before you is something that I do not think we have ever seen before: a president who has doubled down on violating his oath to 'faithfully execute' the laws and to 'protect and defend the Constitution.'"
"If we are to keep faith with the Constitution and our Republic, President Trump must be held to account."
Michael Gerhardt of the University of North Carolina School of Law
"When we apply our constitutional law to the facts found in the Mueller Report and other public sources, I cannot help but conclude that this President has attacked each of the Constitution’s safeguards against establishing a monarchy in this country."
"The President’s serious misconduct, including bribery, soliciting a personal favor from a foreign leader in exchange for his exercise of power, and obstructing justice and Congress are worse than the misconduct of any prior president, including what previous presidents who faced impeachment have done or been accused of doing."
Jonathan Turley of the George Washington University Law School
"I get it. You are mad. The President is mad. My Democratic friends are mad. My Republican friends are mad. My wife is mad. My kids are mad. Even my dog is mad . . . and Luna is a golden doodle and they are never mad. We are all mad and where has it taken us? Will a slipshod impeachment make us less mad or will it only give an invitation for the madness to follow in every future administration?"
"This is not how an American president should be impeached. For two years, members of this Committee have declared that criminal and impeachable acts were established for everything from treason to conspiracy to obstruction. However, no action was taken to impeach. Suddenly, just a few weeks ago, the House announced it would begin an impeachment inquiry and push for a final vote in just a matter of weeks."
This is even more comical than the other "witnesses" that had a bunch of hearsay. Now we get complete "opinion" from 3 Democrat law professors that they vetted to say what they want. All 3 of the democrat lawyers have all called for Trump's impeachment over the last 3 years before the Ukraine "inquiry" started
Noah Feldman of Harvard Law School
"President Trump’s conduct described in the testimony and evidence clearly constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under the Constitution."
"By freezing aid to Ukraine and by dangling the promise of a White House visit, the President was corruptly using the powers of the presidency for personal political gain."
Pamela S. Karlan of Stanford Law School
"Based on the evidentiary record, what has happened in the case before you is something that I do not think we have ever seen before: a president who has doubled down on violating his oath to 'faithfully execute' the laws and to 'protect and defend the Constitution.'"
"If we are to keep faith with the Constitution and our Republic, President Trump must be held to account."
Michael Gerhardt of the University of North Carolina School of Law
"When we apply our constitutional law to the facts found in the Mueller Report and other public sources, I cannot help but conclude that this President has attacked each of the Constitution’s safeguards against establishing a monarchy in this country."
"The President’s serious misconduct, including bribery, soliciting a personal favor from a foreign leader in exchange for his exercise of power, and obstructing justice and Congress are worse than the misconduct of any prior president, including what previous presidents who faced impeachment have done or been accused of doing."
Jonathan Turley of the George Washington University Law School
"I get it. You are mad. The President is mad. My Democratic friends are mad. My Republican friends are mad. My wife is mad. My kids are mad. Even my dog is mad . . . and Luna is a golden doodle and they are never mad. We are all mad and where has it taken us? Will a slipshod impeachment make us less mad or will it only give an invitation for the madness to follow in every future administration?"
"This is not how an American president should be impeached. For two years, members of this Committee have declared that criminal and impeachable acts were established for everything from treason to conspiracy to obstruction. However, no action was taken to impeach. Suddenly, just a few weeks ago, the House announced it would begin an impeachment inquiry and push for a final vote in just a matter of weeks."
This is even more comical than the other "witnesses" that had a bunch of hearsay. Now we get complete "opinion" from 3 Democrat law professors that they vetted to say what they want. All 3 of the democrat lawyers have all called for Trump's impeachment over the last 3 years before the Ukraine "inquiry" started
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 8:08 am
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:19 am to IT_Dawg
No thanks.
Not watching this clown show
Not watching this clown show
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 8:19 am
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:19 am to IT_Dawg
When does the crane arrive to position Humpty Dumpty up onto his wall?
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:27 am to IT_Dawg
Nadler is going to get knocked around like a ball in a pinball machine by Collins
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:29 am to IT_Dawg
The hearing today will not move the needle on impeachment AT ALL
Nobody gives a shite what some partisan "legal scholars" have to say
This is an embarrassment to our country
Nobody gives a shite what some partisan "legal scholars" have to say
This is an embarrassment to our country
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:38 am to IT_Dawg
Let me guess, 0 evidence and more muh feels 
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:45 am to IT_Dawg
Points are given to the viewer who fist identities the breakfast droppings on Nadler's suit.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:49 am to IT_Dawg
shite Show 2.0
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:06 am to IT_Dawg
Wait, what is this?
What are the differences in what we jut went through and this hearing?
What are the differences in what we jut went through and this hearing?
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:19 am to IT_Dawg
opening statements from the hand selected Dem Profs.
“The gravity of the president’s misconduct is apparent when we compare it to the misconduct of the one president who resigned from office to avoid certain impeachment, conviction, and removal,” Gerhardt said in his opening statement.
“The president’s serious misconduct, including bribery, soliciting a personal favor from a foreign leader in exchange for his exercise of power, and obstructing justice and Congress are worse than the misconduct of any prior president,” he added.
Pamela S. Karlan of Stanford Law School, meanwhile, said in her opening statement that the evidence “shows a president who delayed meeting a foreign leader and providing assistance that Congress and his own advisors agreed served our national interest in promoting democracy and limiting Russian aggression.”
The record, she added, “shows a president who did this to strong arm a foreign leader into smearing one of the president’s opponents in our ongoing election season.”
Noah Feldman of Harvard Law School, meanwhile, said Trump’s conduct met the constitutional standard for “high crimes and misdemeanors,” because Trump “was using his office to seek a personal political and electoral advantage over his political rival, former vice president Joe Biden, and over the Democratic Party.”
“According to the testimony presented to the House, the solicitation sought to gain an advantage that was personal to the president. This constitutes a corrupt abuse of the power of the presidency,” he said. “It embodies the framers’ central worry that a sitting president would ‘spare no efforts or means whatever to get himself re-elected.’ ” LINK
“The gravity of the president’s misconduct is apparent when we compare it to the misconduct of the one president who resigned from office to avoid certain impeachment, conviction, and removal,” Gerhardt said in his opening statement.
“The president’s serious misconduct, including bribery, soliciting a personal favor from a foreign leader in exchange for his exercise of power, and obstructing justice and Congress are worse than the misconduct of any prior president,” he added.
Pamela S. Karlan of Stanford Law School, meanwhile, said in her opening statement that the evidence “shows a president who delayed meeting a foreign leader and providing assistance that Congress and his own advisors agreed served our national interest in promoting democracy and limiting Russian aggression.”
The record, she added, “shows a president who did this to strong arm a foreign leader into smearing one of the president’s opponents in our ongoing election season.”
Noah Feldman of Harvard Law School, meanwhile, said Trump’s conduct met the constitutional standard for “high crimes and misdemeanors,” because Trump “was using his office to seek a personal political and electoral advantage over his political rival, former vice president Joe Biden, and over the Democratic Party.”
“According to the testimony presented to the House, the solicitation sought to gain an advantage that was personal to the president. This constitutes a corrupt abuse of the power of the presidency,” he said. “It embodies the framers’ central worry that a sitting president would ‘spare no efforts or means whatever to get himself re-elected.’ ” LINK
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:22 am to IT_Dawg
Naddler was hard to listen to. Buncha BS. How dare the president not participate in our yet-to-be-legitimized-by-a-vote impeachment "not quite a" hearing.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:49 am to IT_Dawg
Let's see how many different ways we can word the same opinionated conclusion. What a spectacular fail. The people will respond well to this particular individual lecturing them. If they haven't turned it off by now.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:54 am to IT_Dawg
Somebody please beat this bitch down.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:54 am to IT_Dawg
Keep the commentaries coming please. I'm tied to my desk today and will check periodically here for updates.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:07 am to IT_Dawg
Professor Gerhardt: The President is guilty of not stopping himself from being a king.
Fascinating stuff.
Fascinating stuff.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:28 am to IT_Dawg
Gerhardt, this absolute fool, he says anytime the Executive invokes privilege in the Legislative Branch.....that's an impeachable offense. Absolute fool.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:32 am to IT_Dawg
I didn’t know Bill Nye was going to testify
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:06 am to IT_Dawg
So according to these "scholars" next time you're in court and have been directed to testify against your spouse and decline, i.e. invoke spousal privilege, you should be arrested and charged with obstruction of justice. Or if your doctor has been subpoenaed to testify about your medical affairs, your doctor invokes doctor-patient privilege and declines to testify about private medical information....obstruction of justice. Or if you invoke your 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination and choose to remain silent....obstruction.
Absolute dishonest fools.
Absolute dishonest fools.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 11:07 am
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:13 am to IT_Dawg
Got eeem...."generic abuse of power" aka tryna be a king. What a joke.
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