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re: LSU law school and full-time job

Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:19 pm to
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
8614 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:19 pm to
Do you have a lead or in on a job after law school?

It is somewhat of a gamble. Not saying parents can’t go to law school. Obviously a lot do, but damn stressful if you’re going in without any hint of a job.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 9:21 pm
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
44626 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:23 pm to
Pretty sure ABA requirements say you cannot work full-time during your first year of law school.

As a 3L I would say that, even if you could work full-time as a 1L, I wouldn't recommend it.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 9:26 pm
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27213 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:59 pm to
I don’t have experience dealing with the VA and going to law school. But I did go to LSU for law school.

Is your wife working? The only thing I can think is MAYBE they’ll let you work while a 1L if you’re the sole breadwinner of the household.

But I’m just being honest with you, being a full time law student and a full time employee will likely end with you being either a shitty student, a shitty employee, or both. Not to mention dealing with a child.

I don’t say that to be mean. There are only so many hours in the day, and both are full time jobs.
Posted by Boaty_McBoatface
Member since Nov 2019
121 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:09 pm to
No. That info is welcomed. I appreciate it. We both have decent jobs now but I’m pigeon-holed with very little upward mobility. Early 30s. I’ve accepted that being employed and going is not in my best interest but just having the tuition paid for this opportunity seems like way too good of a deal to pass on.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
114297 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:13 pm to
Joe Bock and Devlin will see to it that you’re not working.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
77886 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:20 pm to
The world needs another lawyer
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27213 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:22 pm to
If it’s something you want to do and think will be beneficial long term, don’t close the door on the idea. Maybe your family lives below your current standard of living for a few years, and you have some loans to repay, but think long term.

But if you aren’t absolutely sure you want to practice law, or know exactly what you want to do and know a JD will further that goal, don’t do it. And I’d tell that to someone with a full scholarship, no kids, and a trust fund as well.
Posted by Boaty_McBoatface
Member since Nov 2019
121 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:31 pm to
Thanks. Law was always an interest in undergraduate. I had an advisor that steered me away from it. It was always one of those dreams that I figured was too far fetched to pursue.

Good friend of mine in college graduated from Brooklyn law school this past year and it kinda woke my arse up.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 10:32 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
52367 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:36 pm to
ABA limits you to 20 hours and yes, back when I was in law school, people got kicked out over it.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:49 pm to
quote:

try a part time night program at Southern


What are you trying to do? Get this alter into a Louisiana state government gig?

Everyone knows the trial lawyers go to LSU and Loyola.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

Good friend of mine in college graduated from Brooklyn law school this past year and it kinda woke my arse up.


Uh, why? There 75th percentile LSAT is a 159, aka they showed up to the exam and did bare minimum self studying.

EDIT: Apparently the low 150s/high 140s crowd is here.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 9:12 am
Posted by Boaty_McBoatface
Member since Nov 2019
121 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:02 pm to
LSU’s is 158
Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
4884 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:10 pm to
Nope, not for me at least. Finished my full time IT job on a Monday night and started Paul M. Hebert the following Tuesday morning IIRC. Stayed on as a "consultant" with the firm, but the single project I handled (like 2 evenings total during two semesters of 1L) was brutal.

Went to work part time immediately after completing first year. Pretty much worked 30 or so hours a week as a law clerk, although my work had a tendency to merge into my study time. So, I probably only "worked" about 20 hours/week while school was in session.

During breaks, holidays, etc., I worked every possible minute--usually 40+ hours--to keep loans to a minimum, but first year is a pretty daunting task all by itself.

Ultimately graduated in the middle third of my class and passed both the LA and Mississippi bar exams on my first try. Buddy of mine was a little more aggressive with the work schedule, actually working pretty much full time in a law firm after first year. He was just below me in class rankings, but he failed the LA Bar his first time, so that kind of sucked.
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
5260 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:10 pm to
You can do it. There are old exams in the library. There are course outlines floating around. If you get some good outlines and start working on old exams with two or three other students you can do it. It is counter intuitive but the class lectures and homework don’t prepare you for the exams. Patrickwalshdunn@gmail.com
Email me and I will be glad to discuss in depth.
Posted by Boaty_McBoatface
Member since Nov 2019
121 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:11 am to
Thanks very much. Will do
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
27060 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:42 am to
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is most law schools (full-time enrollment) set your 1L schedule for you. While it was 30 years ago and not at LSU mine was 16 hours and was 5 days a week. There was simply no way to work a 40h a week job with the schedule I had. In your 2L and 3L year, you make your own schedule and that's how most work in a clerking job.

Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:10 am to
LSU is in a different market than Brooklyn Law School and their tuition costs are different.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68681 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:15 am to
Nope
Posted by ragincajun77
Member since Jul 2019
911 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:45 am to
They used to have a great site that had a lot of outlines from LSU: LINK /

Apparently it was taken offline about 6 months ago which is a shame.
Posted by ragincajun77
Member since Jul 2019
911 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:47 am to
Here's one from Loyola:

LINK
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