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re: Pretty disheartening poll: wide majority of even most republicans support wealth taxes
Posted on 11/30/19 at 1:50 am to dawgfan24348
Posted on 11/30/19 at 1:50 am to dawgfan24348
quote:List them. who are they?
Actually I mean the super rich elite that buy lobbyists and politicians.
quote:In your view what percentage of the total tax burden should a slim 1% of the population fund?
paying their fair share
Posted on 11/30/19 at 1:52 am to gthog61
quote:If you took all of their income it wouldn’t even balance the current budget. if you take their wealth, you’ll only do it once. Then what?
WHatever the "1%" has will nowhere near pay for all the shite the leftists say it will.
This post was edited on 11/30/19 at 1:57 am
Posted on 11/30/19 at 1:55 am to Carl Tuckerson
quote:Really? Where can I find some dollars thst are worth more than $1?
Not all dollars are equal.
quote:
That's the whole reason income taxes aren't flat in the first place, and why in the 1950s when things were going pretty well for everyone economically no one even batted an eye at the thought that someone at the absolute upper crust would pay a percentage of income tax several times higher than someone in the middle class.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 2:11 am to Taxing Authority
The sad thing is that you probably sincerely believed those responses were funny and clever.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 2:41 am to Carl Tuckerson
quote:Since you don’t even understand that money is a commodity—I’m not sure what serious economic discussion you’re expecting.
The sad thing is that you probably sincerely believed those responses were funny and clever.
You’re desire to make this about me rather than your assertions is.... telling.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 3:03 am to Taxing Authority
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Since you don’t even understand that money is a commodity—I’m not sure what serious economic discussion you’re expecting.
You’re desire to make this about me rather than your assertions is.... telling.
First of all, it's hilarious that you insinuate I made this personal after you came in here acting like an arse and in the same post where you insult my economic knowledge base.
Secondly, I wasn't actually expecting any discussion with you. You're the one who injected yourself into someone else's discussion with condescending quips and emoticons instead of anything helpful.
My post was making a very limited point to present someone else's argument in a more helpful light. The original post involved said this:
quote:
he 40% don’t pay any income tax, and the other 59% have a relatively larger portion of they money taken out of every paycheck
Which is obviously getting at the fact that everyone has necessary expenses to live, and which don't scale linearly with income. A billionaire almost certainly spends more than I do on his necessities in absolute terms, but he spends a lower proportion of his income than I do to meet those needs. The poster didn't state the point accurately, but that doesn't mean it should go unacknowledged when it can be fixed.
Does that observation matter? To some it doesn't, and that's a fair position. Set a given % as a man's fair share and have people pay that % without regard for how much they make. That's perfectly reasonable and I wouldn't mind living under that regime.
To some, it does. There's historical precedent for the contrary view, that those with a higher income should pay a higher % of that income, and the basis for that belief among ordinary people who hold it is a value judgment that people who can carry a higher tax burden and still live comfortable lives and provide for their families should do so. That's a perfectly reasonable value judgment to take, no matter how many condescending emoticons you intend to post underneath this quoted sentence.
None of that has anything to do with the functions of money in any meaningful or relevant sense. So not only is your declaration that I don't understand the concept of money as a commodity wrong, it wouldn't be relevant to anything I've said even if it were right. Just another useless post.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 4:10 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Never trust a poll or a politician
Posted on 11/30/19 at 4:15 am to dcbl
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if by "the 1%", you mean people that work and exorcise wisdom by earning money and investing, then I guess you have a point
nah, who am I kidding
Yeah all the Walton little shits were pioneers in their industry and had nothing handed down to them
Posted on 11/30/19 at 4:39 am to hottub
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Based on your comment, all taxation is taking what others earn or possess.
By definition, it is. However, most people realize that allowing for some level of your own government to take what you’ve earned is preferable to allowing some foreign governments army to take what you’ve earned.
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So, what is NotoriousFSU’s threshold for taxation and theft?
My personal preference is 10%. If that’s good enough for God, it should be good enough for DC.
This post was edited on 11/30/19 at 4:39 am
Posted on 11/30/19 at 5:47 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I just want a tax on movies, both at the theater, cable, downloads, and the dvds. Maybe $10 per.
A tax on music cds, pay radio, downloads, and concerts would be nice too.
The entertainment industry needs to pay their fair share.
A tax on music cds, pay radio, downloads, and concerts would be nice too.
The entertainment industry needs to pay their fair share.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 7:08 am to dawgfan24348
quote:
Well actually you're wrong
LINK /
Sat and read this.
First strike - ABA article
Second strike - author admits the most recent statement on the issue from SCOTUS is against the being constitutional.
Third strike - steeped in "original intent" which if accepted about be no bueno to the progressive agenda
Posted on 11/30/19 at 7:51 am to HubbaBubba
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Source: Survey Monkey
it's a fricking Internet poll, you dumb arse!
This. We've seen one BS poll after another. We see daily that public opinion has turned against Trump; then the next day he's stronger than ever. Why we spend even a minute discussing these so called poll results is beyond me.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 9:09 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
Pure and simple
What is going on?
Republicans have labeled crony capitalism and corporatism as the free market for far too long.
Too many IB Chinamans out there that have labeled the status quo as meritocracy. It’s a bullshite lie inadequate people have told themselves for success they are too insecure to admit they only have because of protectionism or some other corrupt measure.
Drain. The. fricking. Swamp.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 9:21 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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It’s popular because of course people would love to get some stuff owned by others
I used to think that. But after a lot of IRL conversations with co-workers who were left wing Dems I am convinced that they harbor no illusions that rich people's money will be transferred to them.
They simply want the rich to be soaked because it would make them feel good.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 9:35 am to the_watcher
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Check a tax bracket chart
Checking a tax bracket is meaningless. Our tax code is too complicated and has too many loop holes that any making 5 mil/year is never going to pay what their “tax bracket” rate is.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 9:37 am to Boatshoes
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My personal preference is 10%. If that’s good enough for God, it should be good enough for DC.
I support this, simplification of the tax code, and having more people pay taxes.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 9:42 am to Zach
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They simply want the rich to be soaked because it would make them feel good.
100% this. Leftist and liberal minds are obsessed with fairness. The outcome for the tax is irrelevant.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 9:44 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
How about a 999 flat tax?
Inflation gets controlled.
Everyone pays their fair share.
Get rid of IRS except collections and no exemptions.
I am all in.
Libs, what do you say?
Inflation gets controlled.
Everyone pays their fair share.
Get rid of IRS except collections and no exemptions.
I am all in.
Libs, what do you say?
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