re: Pretty disheartening poll: wide majority of even most republicans support wealth taxes

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Why would anyone get angry about people so poor the government can't take anything from them?

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The “rich person” that pays $100 has lost the exact same amount of purchasing power as a “middle class” person that has paid $100. Both $100 buy the exact same amount of bullets for the government. You’re assigning emotional value to alter commodity of money.

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Someone starving needs $5 of food more than someone who just ate. This is an incredibly basic principle of economics that is the foundation of the price system. As I've repeatedly said, it's a perfectly reasonable ethical position to say that this need is irrelevant to discussing how taxes should be collected. All you had to say from the jump was "I don't think that the relative importance of the first X amount of dollars of income to a person is relevant to a discussion about distributing tax burdens, because X dollars is X dollars," and we could agree to disagree on its relevance and leave it alone. You didn't have to be a jackass about it and pretend I literally meant that poor people's dollar bills are magically worth more.

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WOW!!! A fortune teller!

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The alternative is that you're both too stupid to understand a figure of speech and an arrogant twat when disagreeing with people about ideas. I chose what I thought was the more charitable interpretation, which is that you're out here to feel good about yourself on the Internet, because it's pretty obvious from your behavior that what you're not here for is an honest discussion.

I agree that a wealth tax is nonsense and it’s completely an appeal to jealously but it’s a mistake to not note how we are getting to the numbers in OP

Broken healthcare system
Skyrocketing student loan debt
Stagnant wages

That’s one reason I like Tucker, he doesn’t just scoff at this fervor, he breaks why we got here and why it’s a problem that isn’t going away with Trump.

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Perfectly put. It's easy to laugh at the absurdity of a wealth tax, but the correct thing to do (while dismissing the idea as absurd) is to figure out why people are feeling so squeezed that they reach out to desperate solutions like a wealth tax, and see what can be done to fix it.

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Are you fricking kidding me ?

It's ALL about jealousy and/or envy. It's obvious.

If EVERYONE paid something we would be in a better situation.

I am amazed at how different I was brought up (personal responsibility) when compared to people on this board.

I’m calling bull shite

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If so, the poor would actually pay income taxes. What's a fair share? Hint: it's made up populist drivel.

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'There are people who pull the wagon and there are people that ride in the wagon.' ...Ronald Reagan

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Someone starving needs $5 of food more than someone who just ate.

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Doesn't change the price of the food.

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This is an incredibly basic principle of economics that is the foundation of the price system

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Nope. If it was, they’d ask for your income at the grocery store checkout. You’re proving you don’t understand that money is a commodity.

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As I've repeatedly said, it's a perfectly reasonable ethical position to say that this need is irrelevant to discussing how taxes should be collected

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Ah. So in your view taxes are a
means for enforcing ethics?

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You didn't have to be a jackass about it

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I’ve been nothing but polite to you. Pointing
out the flaws in your logic isn’t being a jackass. Your butthurt is your own choice.

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pretend I literally meant that poor people's dollar bills are magically worth more.

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No pretending. You’ve repeatedly asserted that, albeit indirectly.

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I chose what I thought was the more charitable interpretation

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No you didn’t. You presumed I’m a jackasss. Classic ad hominem.

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Which people?
No qualifier required.

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So everybody? As in... the almost 50% have to start paying a (-any?) share?

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Is that their fair share?

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You tell me. are you for equality or inequality?

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Seems like if the government has deemed them too poor

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If you believe the government is why we have poor people why would you want anyone to pay taxes? Seemingly you’d want it done-away with. What am I missing?

Ultimately if you want a government tat represents all people equally regardless of income... forcing only a slim 10% of the population to fund almost all of it ... and then... expecting equal treatment would seem... backwards.

"Personal responsibility or Individual Responsibility is the idea that human beings choose, instigate, or otherwise cause their own actions. A corollary idea is that because we cause our actions, we can be held morally accountable or legally liable."