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re: Eddie Rispone's grifting carpetbagger campaign manager is aw shucksing the loss
Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:25 pm to Sentrius
Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:25 pm to Sentrius
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So with that said, I fully believe it came down to how many Abraham voters he could win and how much of the vote share in Orleans and EBR Parishes he could get.
It came down to not winning enough SOUTH Louisiana voters. One of the Trump rallies should have been in Baton Rouge.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:27 pm to doubleb
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Wrong 52% of the voters in the first primary, not nearly 52% of the electorate.
Rispone upped the vote against Edwards, but he couldn’t offset the Dem machine which went into overdrive to increase their turnout while Rispone failed to fire up hid side near as much.
You can blame Rispone’s loss on democrat turnout all you want but Kyle Ardoin won by 18 points with those same voters, even with less voters.
The fact is that the votes were there for Rispone to get and he failed to get them into his corner.
Rispone could’ve been a great candidate and had the story and resources to be just that but he chose to act and talk like a terrible candidate and that was the difference here.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:27 pm to Sentrius
The man didn’t have the money. Ridpone only had his money. Neither could raise funds like a Kennedy would have.
And yes outsiders put up money and even more in the second primary, but Abraham ran out of money as it was. No way he makes it into the second primary. He couldn’t defend himself or get a message out.
And yes outsiders put up money and even more in the second primary, but Abraham ran out of money as it was. No way he makes it into the second primary. He couldn’t defend himself or get a message out.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:29 pm to Sentrius
Ardoin beat a black and a black candidate in a statewide race has never showed well.
The lady had no money and no help.
The lady had no money and no help.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:30 pm to Sentrius
Why did Rispone not once ever fight back against the Gumbo PAC ads?
Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:30 pm to Sentrius
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Rispone could’ve been a great candidate and had the story and resources to be just that but he chose to act and talk like a terrible candidate and that was the difference here.
On the advice of his high-priced campaign team. Rispone knew nothing about politics, paid an absurd amount of money to people who were supposed to and they failed. If those were the kind of people he would've hired to run the state then maybe its a good thing he lost.
This post was edited on 11/22/19 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:32 pm to The Boat
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It came down to not winning enough SOUTH Louisiana voters. One of the Trump rallies should have been in Baton Rouge.
I was whining about this to someone I know that works at the LA GOP and he said it was beyond their control. Said the Trump campaign thought two rallies in North LA was not a good idea but the carpetbaggers on Rispone’s campaign insisted.
Idiots.
Rispone didn’t contest EBR, Orleans and Jeffeson parish no matter how small a percentage he may have gotten that could’ve made a difference in a close election.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:41 pm to doubleb
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Ardoin beat a black and a black candidate in a statewide race has never showed well.
The lady had no money and no help.
yeah she barely even had a website, right? Comparing Ardoin's result to a contested race at the top of the ticket is not a useful comparison.
The Ardoin result was however interesting for the fact it shows that someone can put a D by their name and do nothing else and get 40% of the vote- although that was itself inflated by the high pro-Edwards turnout in the cities. Still.
Flipping that around though- hypothetically, putting an R by your name, do nothing else, and in a statewide election you might get 45% of the vote against a D just based on the R by your name. Looking at it that way, it makes the millions Eddie Rispone spent on the election look like an even worse investment.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:45 pm to Sentrius
North Louisiana turned out enough to win. People are trying to push the conspiracy theory of north La being mad but they did their job. Rispone lost parishes he had no business losing like St Landry, Pointe Coupee, East and West Feliciana, Assumption, and St Charles that would have been enough to swing the election.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:53 pm to doubleb
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Ardoin beat a black and a black candidate in a statewide race has never showed well.
The lady had no money and no help.
Before the runoff, I factored in the data about black early voting and predicted that the winner would get no more than 51% of the vote and if it was higher than that, then the winner must’ve had insane GOTV game or absurdly high natural turnout. Mickey Goldmill even agreed with me on that.
And then I opined that it would come down to what Abraham voters do and how EBR, Orleans and Jefferson parish goes. Even said that in real life.
We have different opinions as to why Rispone lost. You say it’s democrat turnout, I say it cancelled each other out and came down to what I already opined as.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:59 pm to The Boat
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The Boat
Remember how Rispone’s schitck of Mini Trump was a big flop with you and a lot of this board all the way to the first debate and Rispone was spending millions on ads and still could not get past Abraham who was spending next to nothing on ads?
That tells you that Rispone was a candidate without a message and refused to talk about issues relevant to daily life in Louisiana.
That was where the race should’ve stayed and it was the default state before Rispone screwed things up with the negative ads on Abraham and got enough Trump fans to put him in the runoff.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 11:01 pm to The Boat
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like St Landry, Pointe Coupee, East and West Feliciana, Assumption, and St Charles that would have been enough to swing the election.
Rispone lost those parishes by about 5,000 total votes. He lost by 23,000 if you include Jefferson, still not enough to make up the 40k margin statewide.
Orleans and East Baton Rouge made the difference. Running as the Trump candidate and nothing else motivated more Dems to vote against Rispone than it did Reps to vote for him.
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This post was edited on 11/22/19 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 11/22/19 at 11:01 pm to Sentrius
A lot of the Rispone support was a result of how horrible Abraham was. The tax neutral answer is still unbelievable.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 11:03 pm to GeauxTrain
If Rispone swings those parishes it means he connected with more south LA voters and would have pulled more votes out of EBR and Jefferson.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 11:11 pm to The Boat
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A lot of the Rispone support was a result of how horrible Abraham was.
He was trying to make up for a lack of money by working his arse off with a campaigning schedule.
Flying his own plane all over the state. You could see it at the debate.
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The tax neutral answer is still unbelievable.
Yeah that was bad and pushed me to undecided for a while but I think that one got lost in the weeds as it became more about Rispone’s attacks as a never trumper that votes with Pelosi.
That’s where the fire was and it was a hell of a mistake that should’ve never been made in the first place.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 1:08 am to Sentrius
Is Sentrius Scott McKay or does he just want everyone to think he knows wtf he’s talking about so he just rips off every article Scott writes and posts it here as his own?
LOL
LOL
Posted on 11/23/19 at 1:35 am to doubleb
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So Rispone who put up millions to run was suppose to buy Abraham’s debt or else?
Oh and I almost missed this.
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Sorry Abraham, you pay it off yourself. You had no business in the race. You didn’t have enough money for one primary.
I understand how you feel....
But....
Sore winner attitudes like this is not going to win elections.
To win elections you have to build a team that can build coalitions that can deliver the votes needed to win elections and sometimes you will have to pay money or give special favors to do that no matter how big your pride is and how you feel you're entitled to it as a primary winner.
For comparison's sake, Jay Dardenne's price for his endorsement in 2015 was a comfy job in the administration along with a fat paycheck and that was a price JBE was more than willing to pay and paid. Vitter wasn't and the rest is history.
Rispone should've done what was needed to bring Abraham completely on board and the fact that he didn't do that is a point of political stupidity and why he was a bad candidate.
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You had no business in the race.
Rispone's strategy is the one that had no business being in this race.
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 1:56 am
Posted on 11/23/19 at 5:23 am to Sentrius
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So Rispone who put up millions to run was suppose to buy Abraham’s debt or else?
This rumor came from The Hayride and I’m pretty confident it’s partly or entirely wrong. When I look at Abraham’s final finance numbers from the Ethics Board, he loaned himself $500K over an entire year and some of that was probably paid back.
What I CAN believe is Eddie demanded Abraham donate a bunch of $$ to pay off Eddie’s huge debt.
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 5:27 am
Posted on 11/23/19 at 6:54 am to Sentrius
Let it go man. Election is over.
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