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I BELIEVE there is HOPE for DEFENSE - how would you fix?
Posted on 11/19/19 at 5:42 am
Posted on 11/19/19 at 5:42 am
The LSU defense has talent. You can see it every Sat. The front 4 are run stoppers, linebackers are quality, and the back end can be stellar at times. We seem to "show up" for the big games and the last 2 weeks that has been proven against Ala. and Ole Miss in 1st half. For whatever reason we seem to fall apart in 2nd half. Same is true for Texas game and some others. 1st half - dominant. 2d half - NO show.... I know offensive coordinators make half-time adjustments and they find some tendencies or perceived weaknesses in the other teams defense. Here are a few things I've noticed w my strong grasp for the obvious. Let's get the Rantards fresh takes as well and get this defense back to elite championship caliber w our vast knowledge of what ails our Tigers. Should get confidence back against Arky!
1. Other team is using their 4th down to keep drives alive since they are behind multiple scores.
2. Injuries - especially in secondary (Delpit, etc.)
3. Giving up way too many BIG plays - bad angles, etc.
1. Other team is using their 4th down to keep drives alive since they are behind multiple scores.
2. Injuries - especially in secondary (Delpit, etc.)
3. Giving up way too many BIG plays - bad angles, etc.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 6:32 am to DrD
Blitz. Stack the box. Blitz some more.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 6:49 am to DrD
Blitz....stack the box. Get out of that damn rush 3, drop 8 bull shite....fire Aranda.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 6:53 am to DrD
This is kinda wild idea and I can’t say where I got it.. but.....Who is our water boy?
Posted on 11/19/19 at 6:55 am to DrD
Tell Joe Burrow to stop scoring in two plays so the defense doesn't have to go right back onto the field?
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:02 am to DrD
To blitz or not to blitz... I say keep mixing it up. The idea of one or the other the vast majority of the time is the weakness exploited, not which one you do.
I say we're trying to use our DL too much and need to go back to basics of the 3-4 Bear.
If our LBs are engaging blocks, they aren't getting off of them allowing big plays. They shouldn't be engaging them that often, they should be cleaner to make plays.
Many times they aren't engaging blocks because they are either out of position in the first place, or because they ran out of position trying to dodge a block. Using the DL differently partially solves this also.
Using the DL to eat blocks also makes blitzes, particularly in the middle, run and pass, more effective when you choose to do it.
It is always at it's most base form a numbers game. Because one way to defeat the numbers game on the ground is to occupy 2 for 1, you start a play from an advantage when you have clean LBs.
ETA: speaking of eating blocks, why did we see more of Ika than Shelvin against OM? If injury and/or rest for the big(est) man, fine. If it was based on the theory that Ika was more athletic vs. a running QB we're approaching dumb levels (let's just call it 'over-thinking' since it is Aranda).
I say we're trying to use our DL too much and need to go back to basics of the 3-4 Bear.
If our LBs are engaging blocks, they aren't getting off of them allowing big plays. They shouldn't be engaging them that often, they should be cleaner to make plays.
Many times they aren't engaging blocks because they are either out of position in the first place, or because they ran out of position trying to dodge a block. Using the DL differently partially solves this also.
Using the DL to eat blocks also makes blitzes, particularly in the middle, run and pass, more effective when you choose to do it.
It is always at it's most base form a numbers game. Because one way to defeat the numbers game on the ground is to occupy 2 for 1, you start a play from an advantage when you have clean LBs.
ETA: speaking of eating blocks, why did we see more of Ika than Shelvin against OM? If injury and/or rest for the big(est) man, fine. If it was based on the theory that Ika was more athletic vs. a running QB we're approaching dumb levels (let's just call it 'over-thinking' since it is Aranda).
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 7:05 am
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:18 am to DrD
I wouldn’t overreact and over correct. It’s painfully obvious this defense was built to be heavy up front to compete with Bama and Auburn. Ole miss may be a shitty team overall but Plumlee and Ealy are elite running the zone read and Richrod is one of the best in the game at calling it. Not saying the defense is perfect by any means but making systematic changes to fix what they were able to do would be like chasing your tail. What needs to happen is Delpits ankle needs to get healthy and Brooks needs more reps to learn to be a 3 down player.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:03 am to DrD
The truth is we are about to play the 11th game of the season.
And the problems on the defense have been present since the beginning.
At this point we just have to live with what we have in defense. It’s not getting fixed this late in the year.
Fortunately, we have an offense good enough to overcome the defensive issues.
As long as we don’t completely shite the bed, we should get in the playoff with a real shot to win it.
And the problems on the defense have been present since the beginning.
At this point we just have to live with what we have in defense. It’s not getting fixed this late in the year.
Fortunately, we have an offense good enough to overcome the defensive issues.
As long as we don’t completely shite the bed, we should get in the playoff with a real shot to win it.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:15 am to DrD
I think most of our issues are discipline and effort. Linebackers need to commit quicker and I’d love to see a more aggressive approach.
That said, the 3-4 is for the birds. It has bitten us in the arse just like it has Bama.
Bring back 4 quick, disruptive down linemen. Edge rushers that make shite happen in the backfield.
That said, the 3-4 is for the birds. It has bitten us in the arse just like it has Bama.
Bring back 4 quick, disruptive down linemen. Edge rushers that make shite happen in the backfield.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:47 am to DrD
Believe it or not, Coach Chavis's defense could have stopped the OM runs utilizing a contain D with disciplined players staying in position. It looked to me that our D was overly aggressive in the second half.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:59 am to DrD
After LSU gets a big lead, the defense tends to relax and lose some of their focus, I.e. Texas Bama , Ole Miss. all big leads at halftime and a bit of a slump in the second half. Players lose some focus and the coaches may be a bit less aggressive. Not the worst problem to have cuz it means Tigers are ahead bigly. Also.there are some injuries at key positions that change the way the defense plays. I think they will be ok
Posted on 11/19/19 at 9:04 am to DrD
LSU from what I have seen is poor tackling team. Players get in position to make plays and instead of wrapping up go for a big hit or a strip. I think if they fix that it will improve them drastically.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 9:56 am to DrD
the staff spent 3 hours dissecting 4 plays, they will never let that happen again... they will have a plan for it.. and no one else has a QB that can do that... except maybe fields and he isnt that fast... I have faith in Aranda... the next two games D will ball out... I just hope they are out for Blood vs TAMU
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:16 am to DrD
I really think the defense issues was schematic against Ole Miss
Players taking bad angles and players out of position to defend it.
Go back to the Ga Southern game who obviously doesn't have the athletes Ole Miss has but they run a similar offense with a lot of misdirection. LSU was prepared for that one and it showed.
You are coming off a game against Bama, a team you haven't beaten in eight years. You have a week to prepare for Ole Miss and the Rich Rod offense that has given teams fits for years. It was a letdown game that LSU actually came out and dominated the first half. It was a flat second half that got LSU. Two straight road games, now you get to come home for two home home games.
I like our chances.
Players taking bad angles and players out of position to defend it.
Go back to the Ga Southern game who obviously doesn't have the athletes Ole Miss has but they run a similar offense with a lot of misdirection. LSU was prepared for that one and it showed.
You are coming off a game against Bama, a team you haven't beaten in eight years. You have a week to prepare for Ole Miss and the Rich Rod offense that has given teams fits for years. It was a letdown game that LSU actually came out and dominated the first half. It was a flat second half that got LSU. Two straight road games, now you get to come home for two home home games.
I like our chances.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:31 am to DrD
quote:
I BELIEVE there is HOPE for DEFENSE - how would you fix?
Do we really need to? I mean, are we going to face another Ole Miss and Plumlee before the season is over?
It's not really hard to fix. Just prepare the team as Aranda did for the Georgia Southern game. As Plumlee and those other running backs are essentially like a triple-option team.
Had LSU been prepared to face a triple-option team Saturday night, Plumlee and company would have been held in check.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:42 am to DrD
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1. Other team is using their 4th down to keep drives alive since they are behind multiple scores.
We are 8 of 21 on 4th downs. 7th in opponent attempts on 4th down at 21.
OSU is 6 of 13. 39th in Opp attempts.
Clem is 8 or 19. 20th.
4th down really doesn't affect us in that way.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:44 am to DrD
Threads like this are entertaining but, at the same time, embarrassing. It’s fun to read all the amateurish second guessing from armchair coaches. But then you realize, some of them buy their own bullshite. They think they’re actually on to something. You know, they think they know what they’re talking about. And that’s embarrassing.
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 10:47 am
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:49 am to DrD
How about this!?
BREAK DOWN AND TACKLE RATHER THAN GO FOR HIGHLIGHT REEL KILL SHOTS WHEN AHEAD BY A COUPLE SCORES. TACKLE FOR 4 quarters
BREAK DOWN AND TACKLE RATHER THAN GO FOR HIGHLIGHT REEL KILL SHOTS WHEN AHEAD BY A COUPLE SCORES. TACKLE FOR 4 quarters
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