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re: Looking to buy a home defense rifle

Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:42 am to
Posted by Tangineck
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2017
1887 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:42 am to
I suggest an axe. If someone invades this rednecks house, its personal
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11925 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:15 pm to
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The suppressor hides muzzle flash, which helps with the homeowners maintaing a cleaner sight picture


I actually didn’t even think of this point. I can’t say I disagree! This would be the same reason I’m not a fan of compensating a defensive handgun - the flash would be blinding in low light.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8826 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:37 am to
Anyone else make this decision simply due to corners and tight windows in their home?

Maybe my house is just small, but I don’t think I could shoulder and navigate well with a rifle inside.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25199 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:44 am to
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Maybe my house is just small, but I don’t think I could shoulder and navigate well with a rifle inside.


As opposed to a pistol?

Navigate better, maybe but I would definitely want the power behind a rifle over a pistol.
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:19 pm to
I hate these threads (except for the occasional entertaining post). But I'll mention one aspect that (so far) nobody has asked the OP about -- who will you need to protect ??

if it's just you, or if it's just you and a spouse/SO, you have a much simpler defensive situation than those who have kids.

If you have young children, and if you might have to retrieve them from their bedrooms in the middle of the night, you probably need a handgun - because it's kinda hard to manipulate that pump shotgun or rifle with one hand.

No kids ?? Then I think the answer could well be a long gun -- assuming you understand that clearing your home alone is potentially suicide and thus you plan to stay in your bedroom while you protect yourself and your SO. (Yeah, I know you have some expensive stuff. But buy some insurance and let State Farm or Liberty Mutual worry about the replacement costs).

If you elect to rely on a long gun, I think the answer is still gonna be "pick the one you have practiced with the most, or plan to practice with the most." The manual of arms (loading, disengaging the safety, etc.) needs to be something you do on "autopilot. Same for shouldering the weapon and aiming it at the intruders. Your "conscious brain" needs to be focused on what you plan to use for cover, where the intruder is, how many intruders there are, which to shoot first (assuming you have to shoot), tracking the movement of the intruders, etc.

In my house the master bedroom has one entry point. If an intruder tries to breach that door, we (spouse and I) will be behind cover. We'll know exactly where he is, but he won't know where we are until he sees the muzzle flashes.

My choice isn't an AR. But if it were I'd have a suppressor on it. Permanent hearing damage is something one can probably avoid with some prior planning.

If my shots miss the intruder, I'm not worried about penetrating walls - there will be no family members downrange and the projectiles will have to penetrate a couple of brick walls to get to a neighbor's house. I'll be more focused on firing additional rounds to incapacitate the intruder.

Bottom line: I'd focus more on the number and location of dependents, and basic tactics, before getting wrapped around the axle over rifle vs. shotgun.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17912 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:40 pm to
12 ga shotgun short barrel
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11171 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:14 pm to
Get some decent outdoor lighting and a big dog. Then buy whatever kind of firearm you want, cause it won't matter. Creepers don't like dogs or light.
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25501 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:18 pm to
HK UMP conversion in .45 with 30 rd mags.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3946 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:34 pm to
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hiding the muzzle flash from the intruding perp(s) and thus not giving away your position.

You would have to identify the intruder so I would imagine the white light coming from either your hand or the weapon would give you away.
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
2890 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 5:08 pm to
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You would have to identify the intruder so I would imagine the white light coming from either your hand or the weapon would give you away.


Wrong

In my home there is enough background lighting for me to see who is there and whether they are armed or not. The last thing I am going to do is give them a target (light source) to shoot at.
When I announce my presence I will already have eyes on target and them in my sight picture. One false move and they won't be around to hear the gun chamber the next round. We keep our house in lockdown mode, so ANY intruder is a bad guy.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:18 pm to
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Nah, rifles are objectively better for defense.


It's amazing that this post has so many downvotes.

Of course, there are several here who think you should just use a revolver.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:22 pm to
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The last thing I am going to do is give them a target (light source) to shoot at.


This point is kind of silly. If you use your light properly, you won't be a target.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14135 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:45 pm to
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12 ga shotgun, baw.


I like the 20g youth. Wife and oldest daughter can shoot it reliably.

Short and easy to use inside.
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