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re: Does JBE win re-election?

Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:27 am to
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:27 am to
I honestly think he is better for the state than Rispone. Rispone quite frankly is a political hack. The use of the term "Liberal" to describe JBE is laughable, as if he is the same as Sanders, Warren, Pelosi, Schumer, etc, etc. He has been way better for LSU than Jindal, who I voted for twice. Jindal got us in this mess when he killed the Stelly plan which was promoted by Governor Foster (REP) and Stelly himself (Republican) and approved by the voters. What does Jindal do, against this better judgment, he, not by himself, but he is largest culprit, killed the Stelly plan and he did it at a time when LA was flush with Oil Money. In fact, in Jindal's first 4 years, Oil Revenues were providing almost 20% of LA's total revenues, highest since the 45% or so during the end of Edwin Edwards tenure and Treen's tenure. He did away with the cigarette tax, which LA had the lowest in the country at the time because as Jindal stated, not allowing a tax expire that is on the books is in effect a tax raise. I am 53 years old and in effect what Jindal did was bring us back to the Edwards era when Oil revenues funded everything and nobody had to pay taxes for essential services, i.e. infrastructure, Universities, education, etc. etc.

So to blunt, the Bush, Dick Cheny, John Bolton, Donald Rumsfield NeoCon Republicans, of which Jindal is a part of as it was Bush that appointed Jindal to a position in his Government and Jindal's 8 year tenure as Governor finally caused me to tell the Republican party at the National level to go to hell, I had long ago told the National Dems to go to hell. Rispone may be a good at his business, but he comes across to me as an idiot and a political hack and he is a Jindal Sycophant.

JBE has the backing of the LA Sherriffs assocation, Law Enforcment. It is always interesting when I hear the National Republican talking heads say "We love our Police" with the implication that Liberal Dems don't, Well, he has the backing from Law Enforcement. Every Catholic Pro-Life group I follow gives him an 100% Pro-Life Record. Jindal went around acting holier than thou and never did crap on that one. He has a 100% 2nd Amendment rating as a DEM. Billy Nungesser, the LT Governor, has a lower 2nd amendment rating than JBE and he is a Republican.

So for Governor, I don't give a crap about DEM and REP because JBE on the issues I care about is as conservative as Ronald Reagan. He got the state out of the budget mess that Jindal put us in and I actually think he is less divisive for the broad cross section of voters. There are lots of good things going on in Louisiana right now with LSU and the Saint. I think JBE, more so than Rispone, is better able to bring Catholic/Protestant or no religion, White/Black, City/Rural, South LA, Central LA, North LA together than Rispone who is using the same tactics that both National DEMS and REPS use at Presidential level

Posted by used2becool
Member since Feb 2018
110 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:37 am to
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Jindal got us in this mess when he killed the Stelly plan which was promoted by Governor Foster (REP) and Stelly himself (Republican) and approved by the voters.


Ummm... JBE voted to repeal the Stelly Plan. Even "The Edwards Advocate" acknowledges that fact.

LINK - The Edwards Advocate

But the repeal of Stelly is why you blame Jindal and support JBE?

Please excuse me for not reading the rest of your bullshite, but you destroyed your credibility in the first four sentences.
This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 10:38 am
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6469 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:40 am to
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So for Governor, I don't give a crap about DEM and REP because JBE on the issues I care about is as conservative as Ronald Reagan. He got the state out of the budget mess that Jindal put us in and I actually think he is less divisive for the broad cross section of voters. There are lots of good things going on in Louisiana right now with LSU and the Saint. I think JBE, more so than Rispone, is better able to bring Catholic/Protestant or no religion, White/Black, City/Rural, South LA, Central LA, North LA together than Rispone who is using the same tactics that both National DEMS and REPS use at Presidential level


He didn't really. The cuts to various incentive programs that Jindal and Republican and Black Caucus legislators enacted in 2015 coupled with the windfall revenue generated by the Federal tax cut and increasing oil prices got us out of the budget deficit cycle.

All Edwards did was pile on a train wreck Medicaid expansion (BTW go check out the LDH General Fund Allocation since JBE took office) and raised needless taxes. His tax increases disproportionately effect the working poor, and were completely unnecessary as our government is now working with a $500 million surplus.

This Fiscal Note for his 2017 tax increase was 445 Million. So we had a budget surplus despite his Medicaid expansion before his latest tax increase. He just wanted more of your money.

Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18496 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:22 am to
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He did away with the cigarette tax, which LA had the lowest in the country at the time because as Jindal stated, not allowing a tax expire that is on the books is in effect a tax raise.


You are correct but he did it because the legislature wouldn't offset it with cuts elsewhere.

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Gov. Bobby Jindal says he’ll veto any cigarette tax increase that wins passage from lawmakers, unless it’s coupled with a corresponding cut in taxes somewhere else.


quote:

A few weeks ago, the Republican governor was pushing for a $1.05-per pack increase in Louisiana’s 36-cent cigarette tax, but he proposed the idea as part of a list of tax hikes that he wanted to offset the cost of repealing the state income tax.

LINK

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JBE has the backing of the LA Sherriffs assocation, Law Enforcment


There are 2 reasons why he has the backing of the Sheriff's. You know the first and the second is he backed a 12.5% pay raise for them. He has the backing of the politicians in Law Enforcement but not the rank and file.

LINK

JBE sent out eviction letters to nursing home residents scaring them into thinking the would be evicted. He told the people that LSU football was going to be canceled so he could raise taxes on the backs of the people of LA. He has the largest budget by far in the history of this state.

He has failed on previous campaign promises to reform the nursing home industry. The nursing home lobby has given him well over 1 million dollars to keep the reforms from happening and costing the state over 150 million per year.

He has also pushed for zero based budgets so he could cry to the people about budget shortfalls and raising taxes.

He is about as conservative as Nick Saban is an LSU fan right now.

This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 11:29 am
Posted by Thunder
Western by God Vernon Parish
Member since Mar 2006
2421 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:40 am to
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I honestly think he is better for the state than Rispone. Rispone quite frankly is a political hack.

Your either a complete idiot or totally uninformed. It's one of the two
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21517 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:47 am to
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Jindal got us in this mess when he killed the Stelly plan which was promoted by Governor Foster (REP) and Stelly himself (Republican) and approved by the voters. What does Jindal do, against this better judgment, he, not by himself, but he is largest culprit, killed the Stelly plan


Uhh...know how I know you have no clue??

Jindal’s Adminiatration tried to kill Buddy Shaw’s bill in committee and on the House and Senate floor. The only vote that was not for the Shaw bill was Karen Carter Peterson, if I remember correctly. I don’t feel like trying to look up the final vote on my phone.

After the bill passed, then in true Timmy Teepel coached fashion, Bobby Jindal went to national media declaring he gave that tax break to LA citizens. But he didn’t. He lied.

Go look at the Shaw Bill’s co-authors. Did JBE sign on as a co-author after it passed? A lot of Democrats did, and if he did as well, then he’s stuck on that issue.

Also...did you know that JBE voted for more Jindal Administration promoted budget bills than lots of other Republicans? How does he respond to that if Jindal was so fiscally irresponsible?

I’ve got no love for Bobby Jindal’s political games, but JBE helped him in quite a bit of those games, probably to help keep his family political dynasty going. Selfish and not “honor code”.
This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 11:49 am
Posted by Ron Grover
Member since Sep 2019
250 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 12:06 pm to
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Rispone quite frankly is a political hack.


I actually get your frustration..and you make a few great points, but Rispone's not a political hack. I didn't support him in the primary but now I am. He's a 70 year old man who has never run for office. He's tired of seeing our state wallow around on the urine-soaked floor of a truck-stop bathroom that Democrats before him and a few do-nothing RINOs created. It's time to mop the floor with the old-line Democrat way of doing things.

Jindal was a political hack. JBE is a political hack from a multi-generational family full of local political hacks.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10677 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 2:24 pm to
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He got the state out of the budget mess that Jindal put us in


Once again, Democrats confusing raising taxes with real solutions. Getting out of a hole by throwing more money at the hole doesn’t solve anything.
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