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Trump’s Syrian Maneuver Works. President Erdogan Asks for Negotiations With Kurds in Syria

Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:04 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139013 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:04 pm
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President Trump has played this out perfectly. By isolating Turkish President Recep Erdogan, and effectively leaving him naked to an alliance of his enemies, Erdogan is now urgently asking for the U.S. to mediate peace negotiations with Kurdish forces.

This request happens immediately after President Trump signed an executive order [See Here] triggering the sanction authority of Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin. Erdogan called the White House requesting an urgent phone call with President Trump.

After President Trump talked to Kurdish General Mazloum Kobani Abdi, the commander of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces, President Trump then discussed the options available to President Erdogan. As a result of that conversation, Erdogan requested the U.S. mediate negotiations. Vice-President Mike Pence announces he will be traveling to the region with National Security Advisor Robert O’Brien to lead that effort. WATCH:


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Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22159 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:05 pm to
I was told Trump abandoned the kurds
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
28796 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:05 pm to
Art of the Deal
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468529 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:14 pm to
IF this is true I CANNOT wait for the spin
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
42474 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:15 pm to
There is an old Kurdish saying that I am fond of quoting in times likes these and it goes like this.

"Never ever trust the camel humping bare handed arse wiping Turks."

Here are some other well known sayings about the Turks and believe me they do apply. I did a couple of exercises over there back in the day and they are never ever to be trusted.
quote:


People create, the Turks destroy – Serbian saying

The devil has many guises, the most important of which is the Turk- Assyrian saying

Chicken is not a bird and a Turk is not a human – Ukrainian saying

The uninvited guest is like a Turk (or worse than a Tatar) – Russian saying

Turkey, a country of small minds – Slovak saying

The chicken is more likely to fly than the Turks are to love – Arabian saying

When dealing with a Turk, do not let go of the stick – Armenian saying

If you want a Turk to listen to you, hit him with a stick – Armenian saying

Where the foot of a Turk has reached, the grass does not grow – Bulgarian saying

If the Turk speaks of peace, there will be war – Greek saying

Bad life is sharing neighborhood with a Turk – Kurdish saying

The rooster will not lay eggs and the Turks will not become human – Romanian saying

The Turks are the precursors of the Antichrist.


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Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:15 pm to
So trump stopped an entire army without pulling one trigger?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139013 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:18 pm to
The power of economics and isolation.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:20 pm to
At this point, it looks like a very clever way to end the war, and get us out of Syria.

And he did it in a way that the neocons couldn't stop him.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 10:43 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:26 pm to
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IF this is true I CANNOT wait for the spin



We finna get some pirouettes, son!
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:31 pm to
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Erdogan is now urgently asking for the U.S. to mediate peace negotiations with Kurdish forces.


Anyone have a link to this? Pence said Trump was reiterating his desire to negotiate a cease fire and Erdogan committed to not attacking Kobane.
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3807 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 11:33 pm to
Oh you mean conservativetreehouse isn’t good enough for you?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139013 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:44 am to
There is a video in the link in the OP where Pence describes the current situation.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
9172 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:46 am to
I refuse to believe this. I was told that Trump was directly responsible for the deaths of the Kurds, just like he was responsible for all the deaths during the Great Net Neutrality Crisis.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 6:04 am to
... And one more:

"the emperor should be moved not only by his bounden duty, his office, and the command of God, nor only by the unchristian and vile government that the Turk brings in, as has been said above, but also by the misery and wretchedness that comes to his subjects. They know better than I, beyond all doubt, how cruelly the Turk treats those whom he carries away captive. He treats them like cattle, dragging, towing, driving those that can go along, and killing out of hand those that cannot go, whether they are young or old."

- Martin Luther

The Ottoman and the Arab (Turkey and Saudi), our ancient enemies of old. How we pretend they are allies and conjure up demons to fight in Russia and Iran when they are nowhere near the threat.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 6:06 am
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19128 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:23 am to
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IF this is true I WILL NOT hear anything about it


Fify
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:24 am to
Isn't this just Trump fixing a problem he caused? How many dead?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:25 am to
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Isn't this just Trump fixing a problem he caused? How many dead?



No dumbshit, he uncovered a mess that was going to fester forever and now he is fixing it.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
113184 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:26 am to
Must
Be
Impeached
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:28 am to
I hope so i'm glad he is pulling us away from the ME. Hes got my support on the theory.. but i find it hard to believe he went about this the best way
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139013 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:33 am to
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but i find it hard to believe he went about this the best way



What's the best way?
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