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re: The Nuremberg Trials

Posted on 10/6/19 at 8:26 pm to
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 8:26 pm to
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had about as much blood on his hands as Werner von Braun, who like Speer used slave labor to build pet projects of his. Unlike Speer, however, von Braun had talents we needed and therefore was spared Spandau Prison.


It’s really sad how much you think you know as compared to what you really know.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79271 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 8:27 pm to
I have a great uncle who was the court stenographer for the Nuremberg trials. They named a library after him in New York . I’m really kind of important.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 8:35 pm to
Speer was in charge of the German economy during the last two years of the war.
Posted by Kaybaby82
Member since Jun 2019
625 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 8:44 pm to
He was taken prisoner and killed, the guy locked up and at Nuremberg was a double. Any honest research will tell you that.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37802 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 8:49 pm to
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I prefaced this whole thing by saying that those who were executed got what they deserved. However, there were those lesser Nazis who received harsh sentences that didn't fit the crimes they were found guilty of.



Name them
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 8:52 pm to
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Name them


I already have.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23957 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 8:59 pm to
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Are you really starting a thread sympathizing with a Nazi leader?


Poli Board
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262892 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:03 pm to
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Are you really starting a thread sympathizing with a Nazi leader?


The abilities to to think critically s dad, your post is a prime example.

Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
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Member since Nov 2012
5559 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:44 pm to
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You may be on to something here ! Few people know/realize the real bottom line reason for WW2 was the end of WW1 and the Versailles treaty ! Gut a proud nation like Germany and the outcome is/was fairly predictable !

Probably not in and of itself the reason but a perceived injustice Hitler enflamed and used to ride a wave of resentment coupled with a witches' brew of toxic philosophy, occult mysticism, Aryan ethnic superiority, and Nordic mythology to unlimited power.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:36 pm to
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So you think it right for a man to receive life in prison simply because he was once high up in the Nazi food chain? He spent most of the war in a POW camp.



H was the #2 man in the SS. Hess signed the Nuremberg laws for Hitler. Nearly everything that was done to the Jews from 1933 to 1941 was done directly at his order. You really need to check yourself.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 11:04 pm to
7 million dead Jewish people say whhhaaatt?

But you are correct, but at the same time a lot who deserved to die escaped Justine
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 11:12 pm to
If the Nazis didn't want to be drug through the streets they should have won or sued for peace early when they stalled out on offense.

To the victor the spoils.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33973 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 11:16 pm to
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I think we were a little too harsh with some of our punishments.


Seriously, frick this Nazi bullshite. When did this ideology start making a comeback?

Rudolf Hess was a true believer who deserved to be shot in the head behind a dumpster. Instead he got a trial according to international law. Much better than he deserved.



Posted by MSUDawg98
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Member since Jan 2018
10044 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 11:50 pm to
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quote:
You may be on to something here ! Few people know/realize the real bottom line reason for WW2 was the end of WW1 and the Versailles treaty ! Gut a proud nation like Germany and the outcome is/was fairly predictable !


Probably not in and of itself the reason but a perceived injustice Hitler enflamed and used to ride a wave of resentment coupled with a witches' brew of toxic philosophy, occult mysticism, Aryan ethnic superiority, and Nordic mythology to unlimited power.


I find the OP ridiculous. HOWEVER if you want the root cause of WWII in a msg board length, the original quote above is right on. Hitler had the effing train car where the Treaty of Versailles was signed brought out to humiliate the French 20 years later. He then made sure it was destroyed. There were veterans riots all over the world that wre only worsened by the depression. The NAZIs took advantage of this and began a movement that caught the eye of a young WWI veteran named Hitler. A rebellion led to prison where he wrote a book to draw people to his cause and ultimately a weak government board to the pressure and released him.

And the OP is so ridiculous that I didn't bother reading the middle 3 pages of responses so this may be restating something. Just because he left Germany early in the war doesn't mean that he should have gotten a pass. The NAZIs did most of their planning and bad deeds before they stepped foot in Poland. ... Everyone from leadership to the servers who were there during passage of Final Solution didn't even deserve a trial. They sould have been put to work burying their victims and then dug a hole for themselves.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:06 am to
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The abilities to to think critically s dad, your post is a prime example.



Now, this is a fail.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 3:24 am to
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Hess signed the Nuremberg laws for Hitler.


And the man who actually wrote the Nuremberg Laws, who advocated for the forced sterilization of Jews, and who participated in the Wannsee Conference (the meeting which approved the Final Solution and therefore the Holocaust) got away virtually Scot-free. He wasn't even a defendant at the Nuremberg Trials and was merely sentenced to time served.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Member since Sep 2013
13585 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 3:34 am to
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frick the russians. We should have destroyed them when we had the chance.



While I understand the sentiment, we never had a chance. The war machine that Hitler aroused in the USSR was far greater than that of our own; it's only selective US history that will tell you otherwise. There was many, many reasons they were referred to as "The Soviet Steamroller."

We didn't have the manpower, first and foremost. The Nazis took out tens of millions of Russians and never touched Moscow, and that was well before Russia actually threw everything they had into war. After that the Russian armed forces swelled in size to something close to 10 million - AFTER they had lost all those men to the Nazis. They also had what amounted to an entire second army/air force chilling (pun intended) over in Siberia.

The other thing that went against us - communism. USSR could put 100% of their labor force into the war machine. They were cranking out tanks and planes faster than the US and Britain combined, training pilots at 3x the rate, and there's not even a figure for ground troops.

Attacking Russia would've been the worst mistake America had ever made and would've changed the history of the entire world dramatically.

If America was the "sleeping giant" awoken by Pearl Harbor, the USSR was on a godly level; at least when it came to World War II.
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 3:50 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 3:34 am to
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The NAZIs did most of their planning and bad deeds before they stepped foot in Poland.


You might want to read a book. The worst atrocities committed by the Nazis were done after the start of World War II and not before.

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Everyone from leadership to the servers who were there during passage of Final Solution didn't even deserve a trial.


There were Germans on trial at Nuremberg in matters totally unrelated to the Holocaust. Germans such as Admiral Karl Donitz did not deserve the punishments they received considering their actions were in line with World War II strategic thinking when it came to the prosecution of the war.

Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 3:52 am to
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And the man wh


Sweet deflection.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 3:57 am to
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t want to read a book. The worst atrocities committed by the Nazis were done after the start of World War II and not before.



You might want to read and comprehend. What part of planned didn’t you understand.
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Admiral Karl Donitz did not deserve the punishments they received considering their actions were


Wrong.

He deserved his ten years. For his unrelenting devotion to Hitler even after his death.
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 4:00 am
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