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Offensive strategy thoughts for UF and AU

Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:37 am
Posted by KwoodTiger
Member since Aug 2011
1056 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:37 am
Clearly different strategy for yesterday’s game compared to first games of the season

Pros-similar margin of victory, similar YPG, better TOP

Cons-lower QB completion %, less rhythm on offense

Given the strength of UF and AU’s defenses, thoughts on return to up-tempo offense? I feel we need to keep those defenses off-balance because neither of those offenses can keep up.
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 9:37 am
Posted by conman
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Nov 2007
3424 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:38 am to
Against Auburn you go after #4. Kid got lit up yesterday against UF
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
48793 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:39 am to
I think we will have to be “up tempo” and throw a lot.
Those defenses will be tougher than any we’ve seen this year.
But both can be exposed with the offense we saw the first few games of the season I believe, honestly I think any defense can be exposed with that record breaking elite passing game.
Posted by KevinFaulkDaGawd
Member since Sep 2019
203 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:42 am to
Neither Florida nor Auburn will run the tempo that Utah St prefers to operate at.

LSU will probably pass a lot on first down until Florida and Auburn can show they can stop LSU’s passing attack.
Posted by coondaddy21
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
3222 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:43 am to
Quick passes with pre snap reads. Burrow won't have as much time and we can't afford for him to get hit that often.
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 9:44 am
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35774 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:43 am to
It’s all about the OL


If they keep burrow up, he’ll slice and dice


If they get destroyed, which is what I expect, all bets are off
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
15034 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:17 am to
Lower completion, less throwing down the field, more rushing out of RPO was due to the 7 and 8 man coverage looks we were getting.

The biggest difference was taking our time.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16462 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:31 am to
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Quick passes with pre snap reads. Burrow won't have as much time and we can't afford for him to get hit that often.

Yep. UF has great speed off the edge and our OT's struggle with speed rushers. That's what killed us last season. The Gators #58 Greenard is what we hope Chaisson can be. Charles will have to get his hands on him quick or he will be in Burrow's face all night. Challenge the middle, watch the deep outs bc UF's CB's can jump routes. They'll bite the outs so I'd give WR's out and ups and let them win the deep routes.
Posted by KevinFaulkDaGawd
Member since Sep 2019
203 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:34 am to
Burrow gets the ball out fast enough that I doubt UF gets to Burrow more than 3-4 times.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30065 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:37 am to
Do not turn the ball over and pass protect. We most certainly win if we do those two things
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33875 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:38 am to
Score as quickly as possible because UF will ball control on offense and try to shorten the game.

This is not a game to try to commit to the run.
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 10:40 am
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6944 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:42 am to
Short passes to open up the long ball. As aggressive as both defenses are, I think the deep ball will be there.

But if we are going to make a run with this offense then it’s gonna be all about the Oline.

Also don’t sleep on Burrows ability to run the ball when everybody is back in coverage.

ETA: I think Moss and the backs catching out of the backfield should be there as well.
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 10:44 am
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
18982 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:52 am to
Let's assume they are now comfortable with both freshmen backs running the full offense when in there...

Up tempo is the order of the day. When faced with pressure, a good front 7, blitzes, disguises, etc. tempo is a great way to blunt those.

I like the idea of __NH (blank No Huddle). You can milk clock by not snapping (something many here do not understand we have been doing all along!!). You can snap it and go HUNH. If they don't have time to communicate, they will either botch their disguises or won't be able to do them period.

They will plan for that and have many D audibles and 'base blitzes'. Grantham will have basically RPO version of a defense. If X or Y lined up against you, D-QB will (safety likely) will call a set of pre-defined blitzers (by person), that will come from a limited number of places on the field (e.g. if Player X has outside containment to unbalanced heavy side, he doesn't blitz but if has cover responsibility with a FS over him, he blitzs). This will reduce the effect of tempo to a degree.

Both UF and AU do it all with their starting front 4/5. Except for AU's Coe, they don't substitute really based on down & distance. However, UFs blitzes vs. coverage does require personnel substitutions with S's & LB's. AU will do it with S's and Nickel/DBs. So tempo will help there.

So we will take advantage of primarily the LBs, air & ground, if we can catch them with wrong setup. Example: we catch them with no nickel and a LB that can't cover we'll probably run to get that personnel setup, __NH, and when we get it swap to HUNH.

ETA: here's where 'complementary defense' comes in. I don't think we'll fear a shootout with either if worse comes to worse. Both are playing with inexperienced QBs and do not have much depth at the WR position. Hence we'll probably play a D to limit big plays, especially on the ground, AND lean more towards HUNH score fast. I.e., offense vs. UF/AU will look more like Texas game than USU game.

Oh, and ToP means nothing if every tick of the clock isn't matched with points. And it is only a measure of the offense, not whole team or defense. I like the number 2 when dividing pts by ToP personally. 60 pts and 30 min is pretty damn good. 20 pts and 10 min is still damn good for an offense (that's almost 3 TDs every 3:20) but your defense sucks arse in that case. Hence it is only good for offense only using a Pts : ToP ratio.
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 11:04 am
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16462 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 11:11 am to
I'd add that with the RPO we need to run at #58. He's a speed rusher. Let Charles kick him up field on the rush and run to his spot. With Ingram back he can seal DT and we should be able to get positive yardage and with success 58 will be more hesitant to pressure if he has to respect the run.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8972 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

Given the strength of UF and AU’s defenses, thoughts on return to up-tempo offense?


Uptempo offenses are specifically designed to counter tough defenses, if we don’t use uptempo for them, then why in the hell did we switch in the first place!

My point, of course you knucklehead we are going to use uptempo against both Auburn and Florida, this is in part why we switched to it!
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
36893 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

Against Auburn you go after #4. Kid got lit up yesterday against UF




And you figure out a way to keep #5 from wrecking your whole O-line. Dude plays like a damned beast.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
18982 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 4:30 am to
quote:

I'd add that with the RPO we need to run at #58. He's a speed rusher. Let Charles kick him up field on the rush and run to his spot. With Ingram back he can seal DT and we should be able to get positive yardage and with success 58 will be more hesitant to pressure if he has to respect the run.
I hope we attack anyone who pins their ears back and/or blitzes. That right there is the #1 way. With the way CEH cuts he can be extremely effective at that.

I also hope we see Burrow runs a fair amount attacking the same thing. If we can get them to think about caging him or watching pass lanes his 2nd half will be much easier.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5591 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 5:40 am to
quote:

I think Moss and the backs catching out of the backfield should be there as well.


This. And someone else made mention of the other critical part, Pre snap reads for Joe. Fla will throw everything at him. Everything.

Positive thing here is that Joe is not the normal student. He has basically all day to watch video and see the blitzes.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22786 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 6:17 am to
I expect we'll play them similar to Texas; tempo after a first down. Try to push to a lead. Then if we get up a couple scores, more like the Utah State game, where we play clock management; not 3 yds and a cloud of dust, put snaps with under 5, runs mixed in, etc.

Remember, the goal is to win, not set offensive records. Don't fall too in love with this passing attack. You get up 21, the only way they can come back is to start going 3 and out with 30 second drives.
Posted by SOL
Garland, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2950 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 7:22 am to
we will score 40 plus. we need to start playing better on def.
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