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Is it possible the Whistleblower DID have first hand knowledge

Posted on 9/28/19 at 8:26 am
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 9/28/19 at 8:26 am
of all the things outlined in the complaint? I just read it, and too many paragraphs start with, "multiple White House officials informed me".

Before being attacked any more, let me preface my argument by saying I am a Trump supporter. Trump himself doesn't think this person was fed this info. I think the WB is lying and possibly trying to conceal his identity by claiming to have been informed. This person has obviously coordinated with Schiff or someone.

This report reads like an entire case laid out against Trump and Rudy. Dates, times, over several months where half a dozen officials came to this person at various times to "inform" him or her what's going on. It's not just this phone call happened, it's a whole case trying to convince the reader that Trump sought election interference.
Are we supposed to believe that these officials can't keep their mouths shut ever? Really?

It seems more likely that this person actually DID have first hand knowledge of these events, but in an effort to conceal their identity, they put the blame on officials telling him/her these things.
The problem? Whistleblowers are supposed to have first hand knowledge of wrong doings. Which forces the change of that whistleblower requirement just days ago.

Here's the complaint. LINK

Also, here is Trump's tweet from yesterday saying he doesn't think this person was fed this info.

Trump Tweet: Sounding more and more like the so-called Whistleblower isn’t a Whistleblower at all. In addition, all second hand information that proved to be so inaccurate that there may not have even been somebody else, a leaker or spy, feeding it to him or her? A partisan operative?
This post was edited on 9/28/19 at 10:57 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/28/19 at 8:28 am to
Even if true...I have no problem with the president using his leverage to have corruption involving foreign activities investigated. Republican or Democrat....shouldn’t matter as long as the info is verified and credible.

ESPECIALLY considering our own FBI is so biased they can’t be relied on to do it.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62724 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 8:30 am to
No, cause he said he didn’t. Relied on other people and news reports. This is not a Whistleblower, nothing in that report would hold up to any legal standards. He might have something right, but now you’ll have endless investigations with other people, which is the point, and endless fishing expedition for Obstruction
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50555 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 8:39 am to
We would know by now.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
29008 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 8:41 am to
If so it’s a tactical miscalculation because the hearsay nature of it kills it, at least in the mind of any logical person.
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8139 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 8:44 am to
Nothing wrong for a President to request a country to look into shady business. Obama did it.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19164 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 8:50 am to
Changing your story is never a positive thing. Going from I have no first hand knowledge to I have first hand knowledge destroys all credibility. The obvious question would become did he lie originally or is he lying now by changing his story. Can’t have a get Trump deep stater telling 2 different stories.

Also, by releasing the transcript, they’ve essentially locked the whistleblower into his story. His story doesn’t match the transcript no matter how much mental gymnastics they undertake.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 8:58 am to
Does anyone think it's inside the realm of possibility that the WB is Bolton?

Remember him declaring he resigned? Trump didn't fire me I resigned. Was this also locking him into that statement so it can't be said later that he was fired in retaliation?

Just a theory!
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23384 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 9:00 am to
It was written by lawfare scum
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
58056 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 9:02 am to
What are all these weird Russian bot alters that are coming here lately
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
13156 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 9:06 am to
It doesn't matter. No quid pro quo. Why is there no heat on Biden and Crowdstrike?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14286 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 9:12 am to
quote:

It seems more likely that this person actually DID have first hand knowledge of these events, but in an effort to conceal their identity, they put the blame on officials telling him/her these things.

Sue Gordon, the country’s number two intelligence official and an intelligence veteran of more than 30 years resigned on August 8, 2019, after she was passed up for the position of Director of National Intelligence.

Hell hath no furry like a woman scorned.

Just saying...
Posted by LSU Tiger Bob
South
Member since Sep 2011
3008 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 9:24 am to
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"multiple White House officials informed me".


I hate to have to tell you, but "multiple sources informed me" that you wife/so is shagging a postal worker.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Are we supposed to believe that these officials can't keep their mouths shut ever? Really?


The complainant states that it is routine to share information when areas overlap
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 9:40 am to
You do know the definition of "first hand" right?

That means saw or heard with their own physical senses.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124663 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 11:40 am to
quote:

Whistleblowers are supposed to have first hand knowledge of wrong doings.
Negative. First hand knowledge is no longer requisite. That rule changed in August.
quote:

I think the WB is lying and possibly trying to conceal his identity by claiming to have been informed.
Very doubtful. Risk-reward misaligned.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39720 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:21 pm to
Consider that fact that Trump has happily eaten his own when he felt that those folks weren’t serving the interest of the electorate. Mattis being a prime example.

The fact that he wants political corruption investigated at the highest levels, as he actively fights off soft coup after soft coup should shock no one. He vowed he’d do this.
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