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re: Apparently toddlers can now choose to be a vegetarian

Posted on 9/26/19 at 5:57 am to
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 9/26/19 at 5:57 am to
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Some kids/people have allergies to animal products. Maybe it was that.


Possible but I would say that my kid has a food allergy versus saying my baby decided to be a vegetarian.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/26/19 at 7:04 am to
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Poor kid is doomed already and doesn't even know it. They are raising that kid for a life of failure.


This is kind of a weird takeaway.

Maybe the kid really likes to eat vegetables.
Posted by phutureisyic
New Orleans
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Posted on 9/26/19 at 7:20 am to
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 9/26/19 at 7:33 am to
IMO diet is probably the most important aspect to raising a child. After watching various kids adopt abomination diets and seeing how their behavior seems to follow their diet, it seems like parents really need to consider a more quality diet.

Vegetarian or vegan isn't necessary, but at least keep processed crap and fast food out of their diet.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 8:11 am to
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Because it's highly likely that child didn't make a decision at all, the decision was made for him.


Sorry...forgot about this post yesterday...didn't mean to post and leave.

Yeah, I agree! Of course the toddler didn't choose that. I was just curious if you and others feel that same way in regards to other things we label kids at that age. How many times have you heard a child referred to as Muslim, or Christian? Or anything a parent feels the need to plop onto a child because they are that, too. They certainly are in no more position to chose that for themselves at that age than they are something as stupid as being a vegan.

I was just interested in whether or not we're saying that kids that young shouldn't be forced into "being" a thing they don;t understand and could not have chosen, or if that only applies to things with which we disagree.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16734 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 8:59 am to
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I mean you are talking like meat eaters are somehow this sanctuary of good diet in this country.


I am doing no such thing, if you actually read what I wrote and applied a smidgen of critical thinking you'd make a more intelligent argument.

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Most of us eat garbage.


That includes vegans and vegetarians. I know several and they snack on junk food, have terrible eating habbits, and still espouse their virtue in avoiding meat yet are some of the least healthy people I know.

Intelligent moderation vs. Ignorance-based avoidance is the point here.
This post was edited on 9/26/19 at 9:01 am
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6421 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 9:12 am to
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Animal-sourced protein is absolutely the best, most complete source of protein available. You cannot fake it, or get around it with supplements.


But you can get all essential amino acids from multiple food sources. There's no reason that they must come from one item on a plate.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 9/26/19 at 9:16 am to
I’m allergic to liberals.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 9:18 am to
I know of a toddler that wouldn't eat anything that ever had a face.

So because of that he became a vegetarian

His parents are southern conservative meat eaters too. Last I heard I think he's a 10ish year old "pescatarian".

Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 9/26/19 at 9:19 am to
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I know of a toddler that wouldn't eat anything that ever had a face. So because of that he became a vegetarian His parents are southern conservative meat eaters too. Last I heard I think he's a 10ish year old "pescatarian".


When i was a kid, there was no democracy at the dinner table.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/26/19 at 9:21 am to
Not the weirdest thing. My almost one year old loves fruits and vegetables but is so-so on the meats.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 9:22 am to
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When i was a kid, there was no democracy at the dinner table.



I have a 13 month old and he straight up won't eat if he doesn't like the food. Not sure how I can get around that.

He loves meat though, so we're good I guess. Threw green beans in my face last night.

If a kid is willing to eat vegetables, beans, dairy, nuts, bread, eggs, etc. and is a healthy weight, I don't see a problem by not giving them meat if they refuse to eat it.

This is coming from a guy who will probably have steak the next 3 nights in a row
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16734 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 9:23 am to
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But you can get all essential amino acids from multiple food sources. There's no reason that they must come from one item on a plate.


Or I can just be smart and use chicken, lean beef, lamb, pork, etc. in moderation and have all the aminos, micros and macros in one source and have vegetables, fruit, etc with it. Bioavailability is another term some of you need to research.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15585 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 9:24 am to
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That includes vegans and vegetarians. I know several and they snack on junk food, have terrible eating habbits, and still espouse their virtue in avoiding meat yet are some of the least healthy people I know.

Intelligent moderation vs. Ignorance-based avoidance is the point here.


I’m sorry you know a few bad ones, but that still doesn’t change the fact that vegetarian options have greatly improved and you can get your needs met without meat. If you want anecdotal evidence, all the ones I know are far healthier eaters than average Americans.

One of my best friends is also a dietician that assists people that are forced on that diet. Things have improved greatly over the last decade for them. Your information is outdated.

I’m not going to argue Veganism because those people tend to do it for ethical reasons.

Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 9/26/19 at 9:25 am to
When they get hungry enough, they’ll eat.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
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Posted on 9/26/19 at 9:29 am to
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If a kid is willing to eat vegetables, beans, dairy, nuts, bread, eggs, etc. and is a healthy weight, I don't see a problem by not giving them meat if they refuse to eat it.


My daughter has always hated meat. We have always had to mix it in things to get her to eat it.

Even today, as a 6 year old, if you just hand her a piece of chicken, its a chore to get her eat it.

Cut it up and put it in rice and she is fine though.

I assume its a texture issue.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16734 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 9:34 am to
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I’m sorry you know a few bad ones,



It's more than a few.

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One of my best friends is also a dietician that assists people that are forced on that diet.


My fiancée has a Ph.D in cellular and molecular pathology, your friend doesn't know shite compared to her. There is so much junk science being taught it's not funny.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 9:36 am to
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When they get hungry enough, they’ll eat.



They're not black labs

They need to maintain a healthy weight and I know my kid would be stubborn enough to starve himself and just scream if all we put in front of him was green beans and cauliflower.

End of the day, you just have to be creative. If I put YumYum sauce on anything he'll eat
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/26/19 at 9:36 am to
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Or I can just be smart and use chicken, lean beef, lamb, pork, etc. in moderation and have all the aminos, micros and macros in one source and have vegetables, fruit, etc with it. Bioavailability is another term some of you need to research.


The reality is it is very easy to cover all the essential amino acid needs of a human with a vegetarian diet.

I know you want to argue it differently with the poor diet examples but the vast majority of vegetarians pay far more attention to their diet than omnivores.

Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15585 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 9:39 am to
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It's more than a few.

My fiancée has a Ph.D in cellular and molecular pathology, your friend doesn't know shite compared to her. There is so much junk science being taught it's not funny.


I’m surrounded by them in Collegedale, it’s the Seventh Day Adventist capital.

You are probably one of the types of shitheads that would beat up vegetarian Desmond Doss before he got his Medal of Honor.

Sorry, your finance sucks at her job. Vegetarianism has not been shown in any of the cultures that practice normally to effect mortality or health.
This post was edited on 9/26/19 at 9:51 am
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