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re: Math weirdness: Infinite gold is not enough
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:05 pm to LSUBoo
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:05 pm to LSUBoo
quote:Obviously, I know the words to use.
The absolute absence of anything.
But, to the human minds, "absolute absence of anything" is basically the same as saying LJHWELKJHLKAJHDLKJAHLKJHD
quote:Yeah. True.
The universe would be expanding faster than your field of vision can comprehend. You would never be able to see nothing.
But frick it. While there is some debate on this, there are arguments that one day, the universe will cease to expand and then collapse on itself.
So, in that moment before it turns around, will I see the "absolute nothing!!!". (I get that this is not answerable......it's just fun to think about)
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Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:06 pm to LSUJuice
quote:
But can it be divided into 1/3?
Actually, no, I don't think nothing can be divided!
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:07 pm to ShortyRob
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the universe will cease to expand and then collapse on itself.
all of this has happened before, and will happen again
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:07 pm to Korkstand
quote:Now that I think of it, even if you could possibly see past the edge, there would be nothing to see because "seeing" is the reception of photons of light into your eye and......there ain't no photons out there!!!
Neither space nor time exist to your left at that instant, but I think if you were to look to your left you would see the newly expanded universe anyway.
So, it would simply be a black edge blacker than any black you can possibly imagine
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:07 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:
Come back skills are on par with your math skills at least
I don't know what that means since I haven't made a single statement about mathematics.
You seem to think I was wrong about something. Could you please point it out.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:09 pm to ShortyRob
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So, in that moment before it turns around, will I see the "absolute nothing!!!".
Probably so. Be sure to have your selfie stick ready!
The real question is, what color would nothing be?
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:09 pm to cgrand
quote:
all of this has happened before, and will happen again
Oh god please no
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:09 pm to WildManGoose
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You seem to think I was wrong about something. Could you please point it out.
quote:
An actual 10 lb gold bar can not be divided into three equal parts, period.
Did you know that the operation of division is math?
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:09 pm to LSUBoo
quote:
Probably so. Be sure to have your selfie stick ready!
The real question is, what color would nothing be?
I actually think I figured that out
quote:
Now that I think of it, even if you could possibly see past the edge, there would be nothing to see because "seeing" is the reception of photons of light into your eye and......there ain't no photons out there!!!
So, it would simply be a black edge blacker than any black you can possibly imagine
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:12 pm to ShortyRob
Or would it be completely transparent? So you theoretically see infinitely into the nothing because there's nothing there to see.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:16 pm to LSUBoo
quote:Even if it were transparent, if you're using human eyes, absent the existence of photons(which can't be in an area of absolute nothing), you wouldn't perceive the transparency
Or would it be completely transparent? So you theoretically see infinitely into the nothing because there's nothing there to see.
OK. Let me frick with our minds further.
On the OTHER SIDE of the nothingness is another universe. Clearly, the light from that universe CANNOT travel across the nothingness because.......well, then there would be photons and poof, no more nothingness.
So, would seem to me that transparent nothingness can't be a thing.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:16 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Even a caveman who had never heard of numbers could simply pull out a string.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:18 pm to LSUBoo
One last mind frick.
OK. You have 3rd person view outside our universe and maybe multiple universes.
One would assume you wouldn't actually be able to see ANY of the universes because none of their light can escape THEIR universe.
They could literally be inches from your face and you wouldn't know it until they slammed in to you.
Then, it would be an instantaneous view of billions of stars!
OK. You have 3rd person view outside our universe and maybe multiple universes.
One would assume you wouldn't actually be able to see ANY of the universes because none of their light can escape THEIR universe.
They could literally be inches from your face and you wouldn't know it until they slammed in to you.
Then, it would be an instantaneous view of billions of stars!
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:20 pm to ShortyRob
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So, would seem to me that transparent nothingness can't be a thing.
Certainly not a thing that our sensory systems could comprehend.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:21 pm to ShortyRob
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They could literally be inches from your face and you wouldn't know it until they slammed in to you.
Then, it would be an instantaneous view of billions of stars!
I went to the bathroom last night at like 3 am and missed the doorway.
It was a lot like that.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:23 pm to LSUBoo
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Certainly not a thing that our sensory systems could comprehend.
I think I'm going to stick with the blackest black possible.
Zero light whatsoever. Not even a photon. That has to be black. All other colors are some combination of the light spectrum.
I guess it could be a transparent black but, transparent defined is "allowing light to pass through so that objects behind can be distinctly seen".........and, no light can be in the "nothing" space.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:24 pm to Jon Ham
If you really want to get into the details, this scenario can be explained by the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics: entropy is always increasing, in other words, the physical melting of the gold will result in minute the lost of gold particles therefore decreasing the mass of the divided 3 gold pieces, further the reformation bar of gold decreases it mass further.
The NASA scientist should have known about this... Maybe he was the idiot that lost one of the Mars surveyors.
The NASA scientist should have known about this... Maybe he was the idiot that lost one of the Mars surveyors.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:26 pm to WildManGoose
quote:
I don't know what that means since I haven't made a single statement about mathematics.
quote:
An actual 10 lb gold bar can not be divided into three equal parts, period.
Oops?
quote:See above
You seem to think I was wrong about something. Could you please point it out.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:27 pm to shel311
quote:
An actual 10 lb gold bar can not be divided into three equal parts, period.
Oops?
Yeah...........That's just painful
Posted on 9/17/19 at 3:44 pm to LNCHBOX
Dividing the number 10 by 3 is not equivalent to dividing a 10 lb gold bar into 3 equal parts. I didn't say the math was wrong.
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