re: The Next Recession Will Destroy Millennials

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That is because we still have an engrained perception that college degrees have value that I just don’t think carry as much actual value in the form of utility. This will over time change the perception.

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the problem is that degrees have become a form of utility

now there is a mish mash of culture and class that hasn't sorted itself out yet b/c of the massive proliferation of degreed persons the past 2 decades



this has also been a primary driver in the insane increase in tuition over that same time period

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Who was actually impressed by their college experience from an educational perspective?

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while i slummed it majorly by going to LSU, the experience is still the biggest part. you're around educated people and forced to be around ideas outside of your base. the issue is the standards have been so lowered that it's been dumbed down a great deal. going to a lower-level school like LSU was shocking in how utterly mediocre lots of students were, and mind blowing how they got decent-good grades

this is all because degrees became associated with utility

this is also why the degree is such a barrier to entry for so many people, which makes it matter even more in some ways (while being less valuable, which is just crazy)

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I guess you are good at whining

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that's 0 for your last 3

i haven't whined in this thread. i own my own business and neither answer or wait behind any other person. my achievements are my own

i am talking about macro-level issues not individual anecdotes

Each generation finds it way to adapt and succeed.

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this is all because degrees became associated with utility

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Correct, their utility is their perceived utility not their actual utility, when they diverge eventually perception will correct

Good for you but that’s not really the point.

Slow wants to argue a classification of jobs that require a piece of paper with no actual utility should in fact be valued over professions with equal or better compensation because of social perception.

But when that social perception is based on expected compensation, that doesn’t really hold water.

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My parents are both upper middle class and raised me to be a professional

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Neither of my parents have degrees and every time I screwed up my dad threatened to haul me down to the shipyard and have me cleaning ships in 98 degree summer heat.

Neither has any impact on the current value of skilled labor vs the current value of spreadsheet monkeys and PowerPoint artists.

Muh libtards

I’m not saying people shouldn’t acquire trades. It’s a path to earn a good living. My point is everyone thinks everyone else should go blue collar. Not their kids. Why is that?

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I’m not saying people shouldn’t acquire trades. It’s a path to earn a good living. My point is everyone thinks everyone else should go blue collar. Not their kids. Why is that?

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It’s not all about money and social perception either. My grandfather worked in a factory and can barely hear today. My uncle is a contractor but he has been sidelined with a bad back.

Also, a lot of trades have come and gone. We will always need doctors and lawyers.

And yeah, maybe some white collar professionals will be replaced by computers. But they will adapt much better than someone who only knows one trade that becomes obsolete.

College degrees give you much more diverse opportunities than learning a trade. That’s important

"I didn’t say a trade or being blue collar is inherently bad. My point is there are social barriers that are hard to overcome without a degree, like it or not. "

So you are saying that "social barriers" are more important than living a good and fruitful life and contributing to the world around you? Some of us have been highly successful, raised our children to be successful in their own right, served our communities, our schools and churches and never once gave a rats azz about "social barriers". We look at the person for what they are, not their color or level of education, but rather if they are good and honest people and willing to put forth an honest effort toward improving their lives and the world around us. We prefer to work hand in hand as a team instead of trying to climb a ladder wherein, if you get too close to the guy ahead of you, you have your nose up their azz.