re: New York Area Fire Commissioners Make History, Call for New 9/11 Investigation

I am going to leave this here...

https://www.mediaite.com/online/911-truther-ed-asner-offers-conspiracy-theories-on-the-adam-carolla-show/

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9/11 Truther Ed Asner Offers Conspiracy Theories on The Adam Carolla Show By Ray Rahman

Nov 12th, 2010, 5:03 pm

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Did you know that Ed Asner, of The Mary Tyler Moore Show and Hollywood in general, is a 9/11 Truther? Adam Carolla didn’t seem to when, on his podcast, Asner started to offer his views as to why the government was behind that Twin Towers attack. Here we go. “No high-rise has ever gone down by fire,” Asner explains. “Those buildings fell at the rate of gravity in ten seconds, flat.” He served up some more supposed “facts” as to why the buildings had to have been brought down by domestically planted explosives rather than internationally hateful terrorists. Carolla tried to debunk the conspiracy theory by asking why the surreptitious government of Asner’s mind, if it was so keen on instigating a war, didn’t go ahead and plant WMD in Iraq. “Because it wasn’t the same department of government,” Asner replied, chuckling at Carolla’s naiveté.

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Ed gets it...
Shadow government has no oversight (deep state)

It is perfectly logical to accept the narrative that planes hit the building AND consider that other means were used...

Did you also know that the C!A and IC profile targets to assess their medical histories. They purposefully try to exploit any underlying condition by taking out their targets using techniques that will be indistinguishable from the underlying condition.

A good magician knows about the power of distraction/slight of hand

Interesting rabbit hole

9/11 (like many wars) is a modern day ritual sacrifice
With death comes life and a new world...

NY Times write up about Kubrick...


TL:DR: Kubrick knew...
Construction of the North Tower began the same year (1968) 2001 was released...

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/30/weekinreview/ideas-trends-of-tragedy-and-the-movie-monolith.html?pagewanted=1

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Ideas & Trends; Of Tragedy and the Movie Monolith
By ALEXANDER GORLIN
DEC. 30, 2001

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FORGET Nostradamus, this was the year of Stanley Kubrick's movie ''2001: A Space Odyssey.'' It has more than fulfilled its terrifying prophecy of climactic events at the millennium. An entire generation of baby boomers grew up with the film as emblematic of the anticipation and apprehension of the year 2001 -- which technically began the millennium as opposed to the fanfare of the previous year's celebrations. The 1968 movie presented a darkly pessimistic view of humanity wrapped up in extraordinary imagery. Kubrick's insights into the destructive nature of mankind, a constant in all his films, has kept his message, and the movie, alive these past 30 years.

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In one of many eerie parallels to the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center, the image of the black monolith has reappeared -- literally -- at ground zero, in the form of proportionally similar black glass slab buildings that rise above the ruins of the twin towers

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Kubrick's ''2001,'' based on a story by the science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke, is a morality tale of the evolution of man and the double-edged sword of technology, a tool for both creation and destruction. The film ends with the ambiguous promise of the next evolution of man and the future of peace, perhaps influenced by otherworldly forces, variously interpreted as aliens or religion. In the film's enigmatic beginning -- almost an anthropological Discovery Channel documentary about the evolution of man -- apes are seen foraging on the African savannah, when there appears a mysterious technological object: a tall rectangular black monolith. Soon after, perhaps somehow due to the monolith, these apes discover the use of an animal bone as a tool, and the leader of the previously peaceful creatures commits the first murder of their brethren, using the bone as a weapon. The implication is that this discovery of the tool as weapon is essential to the evolution of ape into man. In a scene compressing eons of time, the triumphant ape/man throws the bone into the air. It transforms, immediately, from distant past to future, into a similarly shaped spacecraft to the moon. The identity of form, and congruence of the first weapon with the idea of technology and flight connects the film ''2001'' with the current year 2001.

In a frightening inversion of film and reality, the terrorists used the two aircraft in a similar manner, turning the planes into tools of mass destruction, and like primitive man, hurled them like huge bones into the two towers, causing death multiplied by the thousands.

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Now, the smoking ruins of the towers are surrounded by architectural sentinels that, in color and proportion, recall the black monolith of ''2001,'' witnesses to the primal scene of devastation. All the tallest buildings adjacent to ground zero are black monolithic slabs: 1 Liberty Plaza, a 700-foot-tall rectangular structure; Deutsche Bank, whose gashed facade stands witness to the collapse of the towers; and the aptly named Millennium Hotel, a black glass-sheathed building.

This year, in Kubrick's posthumous film ''A.I.: Artificial Intelligence,'' which the director had worked on for many years, he returns to the setting of an ominous future with its uncomfortable melding of robots and humans. In the climactic scene, a robot child is flown in a helicopter to confront his replicants, at the site of the ''Forbidden Zone.'' That location is none other than Lower Manhattan, in ruins -- the remains of the city after World War III. There, half sunken below the water, is the World Trade Center.

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THE movie came out in June, the terrorists struck in September. Even beyond the grave, Kubrick remains sadly ahead of the curve.

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At this point, perhaps the glimmer of hope at the end of ''2001,'' where the elderly astronaut is transformed by the black monolith into an embryonic star child gazing at the earth, is a metaphor for the restoration and rebirth of humanity -- and New York.

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Occulus...










Saturn...

I had the opportunity to visit NASDAQ less than a year after 9/11. Our security guide was working when it all went down. His firsthand account was one of the most solemn things I’ve ever heard. He said that they found a row of passengers on top of their building. Between his story and looking down into the hole, seeing the subway tracks still there... I’ll never forget it.

Col. Mustard, in the liberry, with the candlestick!

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“overwhelming evidence” that “pre-planted explosives . . . caused the destruction of the three World Trade Center buildings.”

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Let me make this even weirder: I know everyone remembers the X-Files but how many remember the spinoff called The Lone Gunmen?

Watch this 4 minute video

Lone Gunman

Why is that hard to understand?

Did they rig it for demo after the planes hit?

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These threads are useful. I applaud them.

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I agree. It helps identify the whack jobs on this site.

It's well documented that the impact did not cause the collapse of either tower, it was the prolonged, intense heat that warped the floor supports causing them to collapse upon one-another.

As far as the adjacent WTC buildings, it's not hard to imagine that the damage was not localized to the two buildings when they collapsed.

Using a plane as a weapon is not a new concept, people act like this was such a novel concept in 2001.