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Disney de-gaying their villains makes for weaker characters...
Posted on 7/28/19 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 7/28/19 at 3:50 pm
and may not bode well for Ursula the Sea Witch.
An interesting article about how remaking Jafar and Scar less broad and less effeminate diluted the characters. I think with Scar it was more of moving from upperclass British to a more street version.
I’m guessing that the author would think that the George Sanders Shere Kahn was queer coded. And I know making LeFou gay was a big mistake.
I Miss Disney’s Queer-Coded Villains—But the Next Generation Won’t
An interesting article about how remaking Jafar and Scar less broad and less effeminate diluted the characters. I think with Scar it was more of moving from upperclass British to a more street version.
I’m guessing that the author would think that the George Sanders Shere Kahn was queer coded. And I know making LeFou gay was a big mistake.
I Miss Disney’s Queer-Coded Villains—But the Next Generation Won’t
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Queer-coding may have been wrong, but the result was a roster full of scene-stealing characters that young viewers could interpret as LGBTQ.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 3:59 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Disney fans are the worst
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:12 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Scar had a son this article is fricking dumb 
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:19 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Is there anything people won't bitch about nowadays?
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:39 pm to Fewer Kilometers
I don’t think I’ve ever heard of LogoTV.com.
Where do y’all find some of this stuff?
Where do y’all find some of this stuff?
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:39 pm to Fewer Kilometers
I swear, for a group of people whose base platform is that they aren’t defined solely by their sexuality, they have proven to be... well, let’s just say their trumpet only blows one note.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:46 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I don’t think I’ve ever heard of LogoTV.com.
You must not have cable.
The guy is right about one thing, making these characters less theatrical and less Shakespearean in order to make sure that they won’t be mistaken for gay villains does make them bland.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:47 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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I swear, for a group of people whose base platform is that they aren’t defined solely by their sexuality, they have proven to be... well, let’s just say their trumpet only blows one note.
They are just making these movies about themselves
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If Ursula is played by Melissa McCarthy, I’ll lose my mind,” Marion jokes. “As someone who, like, competed in drag shows as Ursula and sang her perfect anthem, I will be personally devastated if Ursula isn’t queer as hell.”
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:51 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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You must not have cable.
I do. If it’s one of those random channels in some package somewhere I’ve just not heard of it.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:48 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Jafar sucked because the guy’s voice wasn’t villain-like in any way.
I think the problem in all of the cases is they forced the look over the demeanor and voice in these live action versions of the films.
Jafar’s looks and voice made him such a great character.
I think the problem in all of the cases is they forced the look over the demeanor and voice in these live action versions of the films.
Jafar’s looks and voice made him such a great character.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:51 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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making these characters less theatrical and less Shakespearean in order to make sure that they won’t be mistaken for gay
This is so psychotic. These villains are over the top theatrical. Not gay. It's not our fault most gays are over the top crying for attention. You don't have to ruin theater because of it.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 9:39 pm to dawgfan24348
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Scar had a son this article is fricking dumb
Not as dumb as the movie proving Scar had a son.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 9:52 pm to Esquire
Well, Scar was the male lion of the pride the whole time between Mufasa's death and Simba returning fully grown. He'd have been hitting all the female lions regularly.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 10:05 pm to Nguyener
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This is so psychotic. These villains are over the top theatrical. Not gay.
This is not psychotic. This idea of gay-coding villains has been around since the silent era. It doesn't mean that Scar is gay or that Jafar is gay. Both Scar and Jafar have been given effeminate voices and traits to "other" them. It makes them stand in contrast to the more traditionally masculine protagonists.
The article quoted is stupid. The villains aren't bland because they aren't gay-coded; they are bland because Disney made mediocre movies relying on your knowledge the villains instead of attempting to make them interesting.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 10:06 pm to Fewer Kilometers
The voice actor for Jafar actually sounds far gayer irl
Posted on 7/28/19 at 10:54 pm to Methuselah
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Well, Scar was the male lion of the pride the whole time between Mufasa's death and Simba returning fully grown. He'd have been hitting all the female lions regularly
I agree. I was trying to say Lion King 2 sucked balls.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:17 am to Fewer Kilometers
I never once thought of Scar as gay or effeminate. Was he supposed to be?
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:09 am to Jay Are
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Both Scar and Jafar have been given effeminate voices and traits to "other" them. It makes them stand in contrast to the more traditionally masculine protagonists.
Yeah. I agree. Effeminate voices and slender builds are not the sole domain of gays. It's a theater tactic used to contrast the typical strong masculine character. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with it.
I'm so tired of perpetual victim groups seeing victim hood everywhere. Gays claim they are no different from anyone else. Then they simultaneously claim that because scar was slightly effeminate he must be gay and that's an insult. So which is it? Are they just like everyone else or are they ultra sensitive effeminate cry babies?
Posted on 7/29/19 at 8:24 am to Esquire
Lion King 2 wasn’t great, but Zira was a pretty damn good villain for a direct to video sequel. RIP Suzanne Pleshette.
Having Scar’s widow be the antagonist was a pretty cool plot device.
Having Scar’s widow be the antagonist was a pretty cool plot device.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 8:29 am to Fewer Kilometers
I never got the impression that Ursula was gay. Pat Carroll stated in an interview that she viewed the character as a combination of a used car salesman and an over the top Shakespearean actor.
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