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re: I don’t care how many people you know. Nobody has 56 dead friends.

Posted on 7/26/19 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
11043 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 12:34 pm to
People got a nasty habit of getting dead around you Clinton.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 12:35 pm to
the list shows 56....

Does anyone really believe that the clintons weren’t responsible for at least one of these deaths? I’d personally be shocked if the real number ended up below 10.
This post was edited on 7/26/19 at 12:37 pm
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29984 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 12:41 pm to
Every day people are killed for mere hundreds of dollars. Robberies, drug deals gone bad, ect. People are killed for cutting someone off on the interstate.
To assume that “expendable people” like bodyguards, police and interns aren’t killed over billions in government largess is not crazy. In fact it’s crazy to think people ARENT killed. It’s like suggesting the mafia does’t kill people.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21870 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 12:44 pm to
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I'm only having a discussion.


No you're not, you're just repeating saying you refute it.

1. You really mean reject (I think you've used both); you haven't actually refuted anything.
2. A discussion, to you, is comparing people to flat earthers and appeals to ridicule?

As I said, if the topic really doesn't interest you because you reject (not refute, you haven't done that) it, then it's curious you'd participate in the thread at all. It would appear that it interests you a lot and your main purpose is to ridicule the claim, because you think that accomplishes something. Explaining why Barry Seal doesn't belong on the list is a discussion.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21870 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 12:53 pm to
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In fact it’s crazy to think people ARENT killed. It’s like suggesting the mafia does’t kill people.


Exactly. People who just brush off this topic with "oh, that's conspiracy theory nonsense" aren't living in reality. If you took a map of the US and asked yourself "Ok, where would the stakes be high enough for white collar, otherwise "respectable" people to have someone killed?", you'd probably draw circles around Chicago, Vegas, NY and DC.

Tell someone that the CEO of BigBusinessInc had someone killed to prevent a billion dollar lawsuit and they won't blink, tell them that the power brokers in the power center of the world arranged it and they scoff. It's bizarre.
Posted by brooksbabino
Member since Nov 2009
86 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 12:57 pm to
I didn't realize you are the arbiter of defining what qualifies as a discussion. I'm not setting up a two column deductive proof in debate format here, nor is OP. I'm simply stating that the evidence is anecdotal at best and that such a large and complex claim should require ample evidence to back it up. I am repeating it because you aren't accepting what I am telling you. Instead you are bogged down in minutia and presuming to know my thoughts and intentions when I am telling you the crux of my problem with the thread.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22786 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 1:05 pm to
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1990s chain mail conspiracy theory


So which of the listed deaths do you refute as incorrect?

Posted by brooksbabino
Member since Nov 2009
86 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 1:22 pm to
This article links out to a few other stories. LINK
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16946 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 2:09 pm to
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Everybody over 75 has 56 dead friends.


Oh, come on, you know the Clintons are just outliers.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21870 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 2:32 pm to
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I didn't realize you are the arbiter of defining what qualifies as a discussion.


I didn't realize you were the arbiter of who had the burden of proof, so I guess we both made some assumptions the other might not share.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 2:37 pm to
If you know a lot of people and you're really old then you probably know at least 56 people that have died

They might be an acquaintance more than a friend. shite no one even has 56 friends if they're over the age of 25
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 3:40 pm to
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So far the only evidence being offered is a 1990s chain mail which is anecdotal at best
false. The email lists the evidence which is a matter of public record.

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It is not up to ME to go down and scratch names off the list
false again. The list is brute fact. If you want your denial to have any credence, then yes. You would indeed need to go down the list with a rebuttal for each instance.

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Extraordinary claims
this is not an extraordinary claim. It is a list of facts which altogether are highly suspicious.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 3:43 pm to
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I'm simply stating that the evidence is anecdotal at best
ok, prove it. Show that the instances are episodic, not systemic. Iow, that they are not related because prima facie, they are.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134884 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 3:43 pm to
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CelticDog

Can you do us a favor and befriend Mi Abuela?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 3:46 pm to
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If you know a lot of people and you're really old then you probably know at least 56 people that have died
people who were politically opposed to me in some way, 12 of whom were trained leo/soldiers, others who were journalists investigating me? Pretty much no one in the world can say that apart from some 3rd world country leaders.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 3:56 pm to
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If you know a lot of people and you're really old then you probably know at least 56 people that have died


You are creating a strawman.

The real argument is....

How many wealthy famous people know 56 others that died of suicide/murder/plane crashes

The experiment is very easy. You could just look at other politicians, past presidents, movie stars, etc. Can you connect that many murders/suicides/plane crashes to someone else?

I'm a middle class person, and I know of one person who committed suicide, no one that has been murdered, and no one that has died in a plane crash.
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