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Is it time to start talking more openly again about Communism?
Posted on 7/6/19 at 8:21 am
Posted on 7/6/19 at 8:21 am
I watched this opinion news video this morning on YouTube that very briefly recaps Marxist philosophy and history. It’s just a summary but fairly informative.
It then proceeds to make the case that many countries besides the few explicitly acknowledged Communist states (China, North Korea, Cuba, North Vietnam, etc) are actually run by people and powers who espouse Communist philosophies, even nominally Capitalist states.
She argues that modern Marxists now operate on the conclusion that countries that rushed the process of implementing Communism, like the USSR, should have implemented Capitalism first, to build up enough industrial might and wealth, before equalizing the wealth under Communism.
She asserts that there are many different groups and ideologies that come under the umbrella of Marxism, and that their unifying credo is to be opposed to and to actively undermine the United States, which is the only remaining significant obstacle to worldwide implementation of the Communist objective.
Now, I must admit that I have serious doubts that the vast majority of anti-Americanism, which is itself an ill-defined term, is directly related to Communism, but I don’t think that’s what she’s suggesting.
Nonetheless, this line of inquiry is worthy of consideration, in my opinion. But it’s so hard to even have this discussion without sounding like Jerry Seinfeld’s father.
Here’s the video:
YouTube of Gina Shakespeare from The Epoch Times discusses Communism
Is it time to shift the Overton Window so we can openly discuss Communism as a threat - again? Has the Leviathan resurfaced in the shadows? Is it time to drag it into the light?
It then proceeds to make the case that many countries besides the few explicitly acknowledged Communist states (China, North Korea, Cuba, North Vietnam, etc) are actually run by people and powers who espouse Communist philosophies, even nominally Capitalist states.
She argues that modern Marxists now operate on the conclusion that countries that rushed the process of implementing Communism, like the USSR, should have implemented Capitalism first, to build up enough industrial might and wealth, before equalizing the wealth under Communism.
She asserts that there are many different groups and ideologies that come under the umbrella of Marxism, and that their unifying credo is to be opposed to and to actively undermine the United States, which is the only remaining significant obstacle to worldwide implementation of the Communist objective.
Now, I must admit that I have serious doubts that the vast majority of anti-Americanism, which is itself an ill-defined term, is directly related to Communism, but I don’t think that’s what she’s suggesting.
Nonetheless, this line of inquiry is worthy of consideration, in my opinion. But it’s so hard to even have this discussion without sounding like Jerry Seinfeld’s father.
Here’s the video:
YouTube of Gina Shakespeare from The Epoch Times discusses Communism
Is it time to shift the Overton Window so we can openly discuss Communism as a threat - again? Has the Leviathan resurfaced in the shadows? Is it time to drag it into the light?
Posted on 7/6/19 at 8:24 am to Jimbeaux
Trump needs to brand the Democratic Party as the Communist party of America and hammer that shite home from now until the election.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 8:28 am to Bwmdx
quote:Appropriately labeling ""Antifa"" as the US Communist Party would be a start.
Trump needs to brand the Democratic Party as the Communist party of America
Posted on 7/6/19 at 8:39 am to Jimbeaux
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Is it time to start talking more openly again about Communism
No. It's a Kosher conservative mouse wheel.
The real conflict is the one you are ostracized for talking about... Not the what Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager talk about.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 8:40 am to Jimbeaux
Here’s the problem, we aren’t in danger of devolving into a communist state, we are in danger of devolving into a totalitarian oligarchy and falling off the economic cliff into anarchy.
That would happen well before our military helps the government seize everything.
So no, Communism is a silly thing to dwell on right now.
That would happen well before our military helps the government seize everything.
So no, Communism is a silly thing to dwell on right now.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 8:45 am to BeefDawg
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Here’s the problem, we aren’t in danger of devolving into a communist state, we are in danger of devolving into a totalitarian oligarchy and falling off the economic cliff into anarchy.
There is also a deep, Anti-White racial angle to this neoliberal paradigm we are experiencing right now. It's absolutely crazy that anyone could miss the fact that Marxist "communism", oriented along lines of economic class, is dead.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 8:45 am to Jimbeaux
But we talk about the DNC every day on here baw.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 8:49 am to MrCarton
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No. It's a Kosher conservative mouse wheel. The real conflict is the one you are ostracized for talking about... Not the what Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager talk about.
Translation?
Posted on 7/6/19 at 8:49 am to BeefDawg
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Here’s the problem, we aren’t in danger of devolving into a communist state, we are in danger of devolving into a totalitarian oligarchy and falling off the economic cliff into anarchy. That would happen well before our military helps the government seize everything. So no, Communism is a silly thing to dwell on right now.
Did you watch the video, or are you familiar with the term “neo-marxists”?
It’s not that anyone (any non-Marxist) really believes that Communism would ever be able to be fully implemented. What’s being identified is the political ideology and world-view that undergirds the progressive globalist movement.
The effect will always we totalitarian oligarchy, but the average person is not motivated by the idea of being ruled by such. Instead, they envision an egalitarian utopia with “equality of outcomes” and a world without “disparate impacts”.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 8:51 am to BeefDawg
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That would happen well before our military helps the government seize everything.
So no, Communism is a silly thing to dwell on right now.
Communism is a social order that...at first..is either willingly adopted, incrementally, or apathetically ignored. You don't seem to understand this.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 8:53 am to MrCarton
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There is also a deep, Anti-White racial angle to this neoliberal paradigm we are experiencing right now.
which is real idiocy when you look at virtually EVERY example available of nonwhite elected government officials
The country cannot survive being dominated by a segment of the population that is about 80% moron.
There are large numbers of capable nonwhite people. They just mostly avoid politics apparently.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 8:53 am to Dale51
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Translation?
Communism as a talking point is part of a stupid paradigm that is only relevant insofar as is distracts people from the Kosher sandwich of the neoliberal left and neoconservatives. The battle isn't "free market v communism".
Posted on 7/6/19 at 8:54 am to MrCarton
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There is also a deep, Anti-White racial angle to this neoliberal paradigm we are experiencing right now. It's absolutely crazy that anyone could miss the fact that Marxist "communism", oriented along lines of economic class, is dead.
Is it dead? You really think so?
Aren’t the neo-marxists simply using any identifiable “victim group” as a proxy for the economic proletariat?
Isn’t it simply a more naked version of the original, where power is substituted for money/wealth? Wasn’t Marxism always really about power with money being the proximate?
Posted on 7/6/19 at 8:56 am to Jimbeaux
It’s the shared psychology. Man as God/Resentment/Grievance/Punishment. The Khmer Rouge- Mao- Stalin-Ho Chi Minh-Castro-Kim -despite their various huge differences- to our own Bernie et al are linked by a common psychological profile. There is a reason why people with the Soul of A Totalitarian seem to gravitate toward Marxism/Communism.
Because the psychology always exists the threat is always there. They have no internal psychological restraint. Man As God. It’s just a matter of the size of their appetites. When it becomes insatiable- we get Communism/Totalitarianism. So hell yeah, it’s “ time to start talking “ about Communist resurgence.
Because the psychology always exists the threat is always there. They have no internal psychological restraint. Man As God. It’s just a matter of the size of their appetites. When it becomes insatiable- we get Communism/Totalitarianism. So hell yeah, it’s “ time to start talking “ about Communist resurgence.
This post was edited on 7/6/19 at 9:34 am
Posted on 7/6/19 at 8:58 am to MrCarton
Shh, the moral decay is a coincidence
Posted on 7/6/19 at 8:59 am to Jimbeaux
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Aren’t the neo-marxists simply using any identifiable “victim group” as a proxy for the economic proletariat?
I don't disagree that this is probably an ideological mutation from marxist communism.
They've far more ideological differences than just this one.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 8:59 am to MrCarton
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The battle isn't "free market v communism".
Reimagine your terms a little more broadly.
Isn’t the battle “freedom in a land of objective truths with inherent inequality by nature” vs. “enforced equality in a relativistic land with no objective truth”?
Posted on 7/6/19 at 9:01 am to MrCarton
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Communism as a talking point
It's more than a talking point when it results in the "fundamental transformation of the United States of America"?
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The battle isn't "free market v communism".
Thats not the battle. The ideology that leads to that is.
Like any cancer, its good to catch it early and remove it from the body..
This post was edited on 7/6/19 at 9:03 am
Posted on 7/6/19 at 9:01 am to Bwmdx
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Trump needs to brand the MMS and the Democratic Party as the Communist party of America and hammer that shite home from now until the election.
FIFY
Posted on 7/6/19 at 9:03 am to Jimbeaux
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Isn’t the battle “freedom in a land of objective truths with inherent inequality by nature” vs. “enforced equality in a relativistic land with no objective truth”?
No.
“enforced equality in a relativistic land with no objective truth” is just a tactic to destroy the foundations of Westernkind.
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