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TX newspaper follows asset forfeitures in 4 counties w/ predictable results...

Posted on 6/21/19 at 7:49 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 7:49 pm
Texas Tribune
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In January 2016, Houston police took $955 from a man they said was a gang member with a criminal history because they suspected he was selling painkillers found in his car during a traffic stop. When prosecutors discovered he had a valid prescription for the drugs, they dropped the possession charge.

But the man’s money still went into the coffers of the police department and the local prosecutor.

A few months later near the U.S.-Mexico border, a Webb County sheriff’s deputy pulled over a southbound car that Border Patrol agents had flagged for having hidden compartments. There was nothing in the compartments, but because deputies suspected it was tied to drug trafficking, they still seized the 2007 Nissan Altima. The driver wasn’t charged with a crime.

The seizures highlight the controversial but complicated nature of a common policing practice called civil asset forfeiture, where law enforcement agencies can take and keep a person’s cash and property without charging the person with a crime. Instead, the government sues the property itself in civil court — where property owners have no right to a court-appointed lawyer — leading to oddly-named lawsuits like The State of Texas v. one 2005 Ford Mustang.


Long but good article. Theres a graphic in there that maybe someone more skilled than I can post showing Harris county only convicts ~60% of people they seize property from, with Webb and Reeves Counties less than 50% .

And of course the sheriffs respond with...

quote:

Civil asset forfeiture is a necessity for us on these drug corridors for us to be able to operate,” Jackson County Sheriff A.J. Louderback, speaking on behalf of the Sheriffs’ Association of Texas, said at the state’s sole legislative hearing on changing forfeiture laws this year.


This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 7:55 pm
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76552 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 7:51 pm to
It’s amazing this shite was ever even conceived much less still being allowed.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35528 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

Civil asset forfeiture is a necessity for us on these drug corridors for us to be able to operate,” Jackson County Sheriff A.J. Louderback
"we need to keep stealing to fund our theft operation"
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 7:54 pm to
How in the blue frick this shite hasn't made it to the Supreme Court I'll never know. Corruption at every level is the only reason I can conceive.
Posted by sand mountainDvalues
Member since Oct 2018
8718 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 7:55 pm to
Cops are truly some of the dumbest members of our society iwabh.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36239 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 7:59 pm to
quote:

Civil asset forfeiture is a necessity for us on these drug corridors for us to be able to operate,” Jackson County Sheriff A.J. Louderback, speaking on behalf of the Sheriffs’ Association of Texas, said at the state’s sole legislative hearing on changing forfeiture laws this year.

Protect and serve = harass and steal
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11301 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:01 pm to
I increasingly find myself taking the opposite stance from whatever sheriff’s associations support.

Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
8637 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:01 pm to
This failed war on drugs, at least at this point, has overall little to do with race that I can see but everything to do with incentives—federal funding, civil asset forfeiture, votes for looking like the “toughest” on crime i.e. more arrests but lower quality arrests.

Change my mind.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79360 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

In nearly 60% of the cases, people didn’t fight their seizures in court at all, resulting in judges turning over the property to local governments by default.


this severely skews the findings/results of the study. So say 80% of the 60% chose to challenge, that would throw off the finally tally by a wide margin. of those who did challenge, how many were successful?
Posted by ExtraGravy
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:15 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 6:54 pm
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

Civil asset forfeiture is a necessity for us on these drug corridors for us to be able to operate,” Jackson County Sheriff A.J. Louderback, speaking on behalf of the Sheriffs’ Association of Texas, said at the state’s sole legislative hearing on changing forfeiture laws this year.


Gotta love small government conservatives. This sheriff was also vocally against legalizing medical marijuana in Texas.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14832 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:53 pm to
Good. Criminals deserve nothing.
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

. Theres a graphic in there that maybe someone more skilled than I can post showing Harris county only convicts ~60% of people they seize property from, with Webb and Reeves Counties less than 50%

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Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23663 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

Civil asset forfeiture is a necessity for us on these drug corridors for us to be able to operate,”

Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35520 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:34 pm to
If it keeps just one teenager from getting hooked on pot it’s worth it in my opinion.

How can you people put a price on our children’s safety?
Posted by Bigbee Hills
Member since Feb 2019
1531 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:52 pm to
F*ck the sHeRrIfFs and the government they rode in on.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19429 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 8:02 am to
But the man’s money still went into the coffers (wallets) of the police department

There I fixed it
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