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re: Mike Trout has finally peaked

Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:48 am to
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:48 am to
Blue checkmarks are the first to the wall in my revolution
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:48 am to
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he would have led the league in WAR by a large margin last year if he didnt miss 40 games


Trout played in more games last year than Mookie did

how did i forget this. wow, im taking an L in this thread
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33981 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:56 am to
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But seriously, you WAR disciples need to explain why the Angels are always so goddamn mediocre. Are they a 95 loss team without him?


It’s ridiculously stupid to measure a baseball player by team success. On average, Trout accumulates about 11% of his team’s total plate appearances over the course of an entire season. It’s impossible for him or any other player to have a significant impact on a team’s win-loss record. Imagine if LeBron was only allowed to create shots for himself and his teammates once every five possession. Or what about Tom Brady and Drew Brees being forced to alternate snaps with the other two QBs on the roster? Instead of taking 60-65 snaps a game, they can only be on the field for 20-25 plays. Their impact on the game would be greatly limited. That’s what Mike Trout has to deal with.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:58 am to
And that’s not even going into the fact that he has to rely on pitching

The Angels pulled an LSU to start the season and didn’t even have a LHP in the pen. Like how the frick does that happen
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:01 pm to
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.420 batting average


quote:

69 career at bats

Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:02 pm to
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The Angels pulled an LSU to start the season and didn’t even have a LHP in the pen. Like how the frick does that happen


The Mets were that way recently, and may still be. When they played the Cardinals a couple weeks ago, their only LHP in the bullpen blew a game and they DFA'd him about 15 minutes later. Spent the rest of the series all right.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17176 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 12:41 pm to
It varies, but it’s generally accepted that position players peak somewhere between their age 27-30 season. Trout is 27. So, it’s very likely, however unlikely it seems, that Trout still hadn’t peaked. Barring a career ending injury or an Andruw Jones type fall off, we may be watching the greatest baseball player of all time.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 12:42 pm
Posted by RyleD
Member since Feb 2017
396 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:04 pm to
What about his desire to win? Why stay with a mediocre organization that has zero shot at winning anything in his career.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:13 pm to
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What about his desire to win? Why stay with a mediocre organization that has zero shot at winning anything in his career.


If you know Trout’s personality he is not a flashy guy, doesn’t like attention and just wants to play baseball. He was never going to go to a big market to play, aside from possibly Philly.

It’s clear he has loyalty to LAA for drafting him or whatever it is, who knows. But I can only assume that the front office has committed to invest over the span of his career.

They already got Ohtani, paid Justin Upton and they’re still paying Pujols and Hamilton I believe. It isn’t an overnight change.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:42 pm to
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they’re still paying Pujols


Including this year they still owe him 3 years and $87 million.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145353 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:47 pm to
I thought this board admired loyalty in the face of lack of team accomplishments
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 1:52 pm to
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I thought this board admired loyalty in the face of lack of team accomplishments


Not in baseball

Trout is a greedy Thug POS
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:52 pm to
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I don’t think it’s a big mystery. The team around him isn’t good and one baseball player can’t make a LeBron like impact.


Yep. In basketball LeBron can probably have a 40 win impact over an 82 game schedule. A baseball player is doing really good if they have a WAR of 5 over a 162 game schedule.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 5:05 pm to
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Including this year they still owe him 3 years and $87 million.


This is why guys are no longer getting long term deals when they're in their 30s
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 5:23 pm to
There is nothing about Trout that says greatest of all time. Nothing. A-Rod, Bonds before the Roids, Griffey, Willie Mays, Babe Ruth, Teddy Ballgame. That’s your inner circle.

Sabermetrics are how the Mike Greenbergs of the world can pretend like they know a damn thing about baseball.
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:43 pm to
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There is nothing about Trout that says greatest of all time. Nothing. A-Rod, Bonds before the Roids, Griffey, Willie Mays, Babe Ruth, Teddy Ballgame. That’s your inner circle.


Griffey through age 27: .302/.381/.562
Trout through age 27:
.306/.419/.578


Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23958 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:18 pm to
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There is nothing about Trout that says greatest of all time. Nothing. A-Rod, Bonds before the Roids, Griffey, Willie Mays, Babe Ruth, Teddy Ballgame. That’s your inner circle. Sabermetrics are how the Mike Greenbergs of the world can pretend like they know a damn thing about baseball.



Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:19 pm to
And the counting stats? Home runs? Runs? RBIs? Griffey also spent his prime with steroid users while remaining clean.

Trout is the king of empty stats at the plate. Down 6-2 in the 8th? Here comes a double! Down 4-0 in the 7th? I’ll walk and get a steal! We’re down 8-3 in the 9th and I’m 0-2 with a walk? Well here’s a good time to hit a solo shot!

Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
Member since Jul 2010
21763 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:36 pm to
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TheeRealCarolina


I’m just bumping this thread in the hope more people can see your dumbass posts and laugh
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