re: Breaking development in Roger Stone Case.

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don't see how evidence related to the origins of an investigation are relevant to charges of witness tampering.

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That is not the standard. At all.

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It's rock solid

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Something no litigator has ever said. Good Lord.

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solid -- he instructed someone to lie under oath, threatened him, etc

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I doubt you know the elements/defenses etc. however, let’s assume you are correct. That has zero to do with evidentiary standards and procedures. Of which you clearly don’t care about. You just want your “side” to win.

It makes your inability to grasp a simple concept like “corrupt intent” all the more explainable. I was engaging you in good faith and honest debate. You are simply dishonest. This is now painfully clear.

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It's hard to believe this is real life.

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When I was young and I naive, I watched the movie "Count of Monte Cristo" and thinking, thankfully that doesn't happen in the USA.

Wrong!
So sad!

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That is not the standard. At all.

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That's up for the judge to decide, no? There hasn't been a trial yet so this is the process working as intended.

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Something no litigator has ever said. Good Lord.

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Good thing I'm just watching the ballgame. What % of cases do you think the federal government loses? They don't typically litigate when they could lose.. in other words -- rock solid.

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Of which you clearly don’t care about. You just want your “side” to win.

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We both know he is guilty You just care more about the process than about justice -- I respect that because the process is important. I'd prefer to see the scumbag headed to spend the rest of his life in jail. Then I can chuckle when he gets his pardon.

Good thing I'm not a liberal pussy boy, if I was I might give a frick what the liberal trash thinks about me!!

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No. You are a dishonest and ignorant useful idiot that doesn’t even know the elements of the crime. If the quote you posted is the “rock solid” proof you need....it is even more evident you don’t know what you don’t know. Stop playing lawyer. You are awful at it.

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18 U.S. Code §?1512. Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant

(b) Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to—
(1) influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2) cause or induce any person to—
(A) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(B) alter, destroy, mutilate, or conceal an object with intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding;
(C) evade legal process summoning that person to appear as a witness, or to produce a record, document, or other object, in an official proceeding; or
(D) be absent from an official proceeding to which such person has been summoned by legal process;

Pretty sure the indictment covers this at a minimum

Stone is looking for a technicality to excuse his criminal conduct. The idea that crimes like witness tampering/obstruction of justice depend on the investigation resulting in charges (or even on the veracity of the investigation) is insane. They are crimes because the conduct can materially impair an investigation

You don't get to burn your house down to prevent a thorough investigation -- that's a crime.

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the rest of his life in jail?

Are you demented?

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He's old. The sentence won't be that long.

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He's old. The sentence won't be that long.

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Do you understand what the charges are?

Liberal alter pussy boy, your alter account will be gone , once all is said and done. Flynn will walk and Stone will walk, and your pussy arse will be using another account like most liberal vagina's on here do !!

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Liberal alter pussy boy, your alter account will be gone , once all is said and done. Flynn will walk and Stone will walk, and your pussy arse will be using another account like most liberal vagina's on here do !!

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Next level alter given we are on at the same time. Maybe its a burner phone.

No wonder they needed 30 officers in riot gear, a battering ram and, of course CNN for backup if Stone really got rough.