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Do tiny worthless universities dilute the value of actual universities
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:37 pm
Seems like every time I’m on I see these beat to shite cars driven by degenerates riding around town with “southwest university alumni” or “southern university alumi” bumper stickers. Seeing this all the time got me thinking..
1.) how did this person, who looks like they can barely walk/talk graduate from college?
2.) who is footing the bill for this? I assume they are taking out student loans for these piece of shite degrees.. adding insult to injury to the student debt situation.
3.) does having all these small regional colleges where anyone with a pulse can get in take away from worth awhile institutions?
1.) how did this person, who looks like they can barely walk/talk graduate from college?
2.) who is footing the bill for this? I assume they are taking out student loans for these piece of shite degrees.. adding insult to injury to the student debt situation.
3.) does having all these small regional colleges where anyone with a pulse can get in take away from worth awhile institutions?
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:39 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
If they are private, fine, but the taxpayers shouldn’t be stuck footing the bill for “universities” with dismal graduation rates and graduates who seem dumber than a box of rocks...
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:40 pm to Ruxins Rascals
So you met a suno or dillard grad
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:41 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
I think it’s less the caliber of universities than it is the caliber of degree programs universities offer. Gender studies is useless whether it’s at BRCC or Harvard
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:47 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
Nicholls, Grambling, McNeese, and Northwestern Should all be shut down.
Grambling is a shitehole
Nicholls is a slightly better shitehole
No need for McNeese with ULL
No need for Northwestern woth ULM and La Tech
Grambling is a shitehole
Nicholls is a slightly better shitehole
No need for McNeese with ULL
No need for Northwestern woth ULM and La Tech
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:50 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
Maybe, but I think this pales in comparison to the damage large universities do to themselves by being havens of "progressive" thinking and associated suppression of free speech / thought.This damage far outweighs anything a small and/or online school can do.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:52 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
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3.) does having all these small regional colleges where anyone with a pulse can get in take away from worth awhile institutions?
Where does schools like Tufts, Brandeis, Williams, and Carnegie Mellon fit in this narrative because their alum would have lots to say about giant state schools that take every in state resident who can read?
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:55 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
Yes, they devalue public universities in general, especially in Louisiana. Many were created when Louisiana's population was at its height, before the steady decline started.
A few large universities with a huge array of resources and highly paid instructors would benefit the state far better than a bunch of tiddlywink colleges always operating on a shoestring budget.
Good luck getting legislators to agree to defund the tiddlywink college in their area. Easy to create. Impossible to end.
As far as HBCUs go, I have no problem with private ones, but it's the 21st century. Should we have public segregated colleges that have far lower standards for African Americans? Yet -bizarrely- if you point out this objective fact, you are called racist. Odd.
Truth is, the biggest thing devaluing universities today is universities. Outside of STEM, they have become useless, but you generally need a degree for most professional jobs, so we're forced to go into debt for these worthless certificates.
Academia is a petty, small minded ideological wasteland.
A few large universities with a huge array of resources and highly paid instructors would benefit the state far better than a bunch of tiddlywink colleges always operating on a shoestring budget.
Good luck getting legislators to agree to defund the tiddlywink college in their area. Easy to create. Impossible to end.
As far as HBCUs go, I have no problem with private ones, but it's the 21st century. Should we have public segregated colleges that have far lower standards for African Americans? Yet -bizarrely- if you point out this objective fact, you are called racist. Odd.
Truth is, the biggest thing devaluing universities today is universities. Outside of STEM, they have become useless, but you generally need a degree for most professional jobs, so we're forced to go into debt for these worthless certificates.
Academia is a petty, small minded ideological wasteland.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:55 pm to SlackMaster
Larger universities, while leaning left significantly, are not the bastions of progressive ideology nor the camps of forced conformation to progressive dogma that small, private, liberal arts colleges are
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:59 pm to Jp1LSU
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Where does schools like Tufts, Brandeis, Williams, and Carnegie Mellon fit in this narrative because their alum would have lots to say about giant state schools that take every in state resident who can read?
Pretty sure he is not referring to the small private colleges that are actually providing excellent education, but rather those "directional" schools or off campus campuses i.e. University of Arkansas Fort Smith or University of Wisconsin Green Bay.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:01 pm to WaydownSouth
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Nicholls, Grambling, McNeese, and Northwestern Should all be shut down.
Why? Also, where did you go to college?
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:14 pm to Schmelly
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I think it’s less the caliber of universities than it is the caliber of degree programs universities offer. Gender studies is useless whether it’s at BRCC or Harvard
Unfortunately it doesn't even have to be GS or something similar.
You can get a history/english/etc. degree that is basically a social advocacy degree. Getting a literature degree used to mean you'd leave school having read (to a degree of memorization) classic works, rendering you a strong thinker and writer. Now I suspect you can get a literature degree from respectable institutions without having read pretty much any genuinely seminal work.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:18 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
quote:
1.) how did this person, who looks like they can barely walk/talk graduate from college?
I see those and think either they just graduated or the sticker was on the car when the current owner bought it.
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Do tiny worthless universities dilute the value of actual universities
No, what dilutes the value of actual universities are offering of degrees in bullshite fields that cost the student far more than they will ever earn IF they can find a job in that field (looking at you, "Gender Studies"). What also dilutes actual universities is excess monies from grants/loans/donations that go into growing middle management instead of research, professor salaries, upkeep or lowering overall costs.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:19 pm to WaydownSouth
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Nicholls, Grambling, McNeese, and Northwestern Should all be shut down.
Grambling is a shitehole
Nicholls is a slightly better shitehole
No need for McNeese with ULL
No need for Northwestern woth ULM and La Tech
By this logic then Southeastern should be shut down since its close to LSU and Southern.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:20 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
“Real” universities has destroyed their own value, by watering down standards, and standing up worthless departments that pursue meritless subjects.
Higher education is thoroughly rotten.
Higher education is thoroughly rotten.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:21 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
This is exactly why the University of Phoenix wants all the smaller universities to consolidate and/or close.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:21 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
Student loans should not cover degrees without a solid ROI.
ETA:
But they SHOULD cover the cost of trade schools.
ETA:
But they SHOULD cover the cost of trade schools.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:27 pm to Pettifogger
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You can get a history/english/etc. degree that is basically a social advocacy degree. Getting a literature degree used to mean you'd leave school having read (to a degree of memorization) classic works, rendering you a strong thinker and writer. Now I suspect you can get a literature degree from respectable institutions without having read pretty much any genuinely seminal work.
I was a History major at Ole Miss (Class of 2010), which is far from an elite school.
And we read a ton of classic works. It was constant reading that you couldn't avoid without failing the classes.
As far as an education of History is concerned, it was quite solid. Learned to write lengthy, substantive papers as well.
And now I work in healthcare strategy and operations with a heavy dose of analytics and had to get an MBA to move up in my company
ETA:
I was thinking about law school and loved history, so it was a decent choice at the time. Then after graduation decided against the legal profession (thank god).
Also, I was lucky enough to waste my dad's money on the degree and not be in student loan debt
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 1:28 pm
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