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re: Best programs for developing NFL talent - per 247 Sports
Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:02 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:02 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Feel like getting drafted doesn’t equal developing NFL talent either.
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:16 am to ReauxlTide222
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Looks to me like Alabama is #1
Not even close
Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:22 am to BilJ
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Best programs for developing NFL talent - per 247 Sports
247 clickbait....
shocking stuff the big time programs in CFB have plenty of players make it to the NFL
Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:29 am to BilJ
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Best programs for developing NFL talent - per 247 Sports
247 clickbait....
shocking stuff the big time programs in CFB have plenty of players make it to the NFL
And they are given far too much credit for "developing" talent. They recruit NFL talent and some pay a lot of damn money for them.
I'd like to see programs consistently win championships & " develop" NFL players without the constant stream of 4/5 star players.
Had L Fournette,Julio Jones,Patrick Peterson ,etc....gone to Grambling they would be NFL talent.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:37 am to sugar71
Doesnt help Auburn that one of those 5 years is the worst year in program history
Interesting read
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It's the 2010-2014 classes
Interesting read
Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:41 am to 14&Counting
quote:What?
Not even close
Posted on 6/4/19 at 12:32 pm to Buckeye06
The explanation is good enough I guess.
The summary chart is pretty useless without it.
The summary chart is pretty useless without it.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 12:38 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
They should do a % that make final 53 man rosters.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 12:40 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
The real "development" metric should be the percentage of lower ranked recruits that were drafted.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 12:41 pm to slackster
Why stop at 247?
These programs aren’t getting credit for their best development jobs.
These programs aren’t getting credit for their best development jobs.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 12:41 pm to TheCaterpillar
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The real "development" metric should be the percentage of lower ranked recruits that were drafted.
It should at least be considered. These charts are more of a "who doesn't blow their talent" more than development of talent.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 12:43 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Feel like getting drafted doesn’t equal developing NFL talent either.
It doesn't.
There is a documented halo effect for getting drafted. Big time schools with several high draft picks often have more players drafted that otherwise wouldn't be just from visibility from the scouts going to their workouts and reviewing film.
And a lot of top recruits don't develop much in college at all, but have ridiculous raw skills and destroy the combine so they're drafted high.
So two things:
1. They shouldn't look at the players drafted, they should look at players that make a 53 man roster.
2. They should then cut that analysis several ways, most notably look at schools with the highest percentage of LOW LEVEL recruits that end up making 53 man rosters. This would show true development.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 12:54 pm to TheCaterpillar
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They should then cut that analysis several ways, most notably look at schools with the highest percentage of LOW LEVEL recruits that end up making 53 man rosters. This would show true development.
Even that doesn't necessarily speak to how well a program develops someone. Maybe the kid was a late bloomer physically, or the program has an eye for talent. I think the latter is the case with Clemson.
They put more talent into the NFL than the 247 rankings say they should. They must have some exceptional talent evaluators in their program. Talent evaluation is such an underrated aspect of recruiting.
Everyone can pick out the guy that's obviously gifted, but finding the diamond in the rough, the guy that may be a year away from developing into the 5* guy is where you really gain an edge.
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 6/4/19 at 12:59 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I don't understand the math but... 
Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:00 pm to TheCaterpillar
You do it
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:38 pm to Gatorbait2008
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I don't understand the math but...
Shows just how bad of a coach Muschamp really was.
7 of our starters on offense from 2011 and 2012 are still in the NFL.
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:52 pm to Korin
Shows how bad Clay Helton really is.
USC is currently 3rd on the list of active NFL players in the NFL (and #1 all-time) but hasn't been producing quality the last couple of years.
Most of the USC players in the NFL have been there 5+ years.
In 2017, USC was #2 behind #1 LSU...and then Clay Helton happened and Alabama leapfrogged Florida, Miami and USC from 5th place to #2 last year.
USC is currently 3rd on the list of active NFL players in the NFL (and #1 all-time) but hasn't been producing quality the last couple of years.
Most of the USC players in the NFL have been there 5+ years.
In 2017, USC was #2 behind #1 LSU...and then Clay Helton happened and Alabama leapfrogged Florida, Miami and USC from 5th place to #2 last year.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:07 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
And when we start CFB seasons with the Top 25 and argue who should have made the Top 25...
Just remember, they say almost 50% of NFL players come from just 18 schools. - Business Insider.
So every year there are basically very few teams that have a realistic shot at winning the Mythical National Title.
Just remember, they say almost 50% of NFL players come from just 18 schools. - Business Insider.
So every year there are basically very few teams that have a realistic shot at winning the Mythical National Title.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:27 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Big 20...
Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:29 pm to TH03
quote:all a&m, all the time. Even on the MSB
Finally a win for aTm over Texas.
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