re: Mega church pastor says: Penalizing Women for Abortion Is Not Pro-Life

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you're not saying this is true of prestonwood are you?

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I'm saying that in general most mega churches share a certain, um, flexibility when it comes to what they do and say that has its root in the accounting department. But when you are carrying a 7 or 8 figure debt load and build baby build is your mantra, it comes with the territory.

What's a Prestonwood?

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it's possible that someone with first hand knowledge can later see the problems with their prior decisions. that happens to me all the time

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I am a member of Prestonwood and I would have a hard time believing any of them had abortions. Not saying they haven’t but I doubt it. My wife has volunteered at the crisis pregnancy center and has told me some stories that would surprise and sicken you.
Prestonwood is a mega church that really does it the right way. Their only concern is ministering to as many souls as possible. We spend a tremendous amount of money investing in small churches across the country and freely share all of the Sunday messages and bible studies to this network to make it easier for these smaller churches with limited staff.

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We are at a point of medical technology where abortion by prescription is available in the first trimester. Unless you are prepared to violate doctor/patient privilege there is damn near no way for the state to enforce abortion laws around these. They would be done in complete secrecy with no evidence.

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You think the doctor will do this for free? Most women getting abortions can’t afford to pay a medical bill. Either the doctor is paying for these out of pocket (unlikely), or they have to fraud insurance in addition to performing an illegal abortion. That’s way too much to work through for someone who is making good money and will lose their life’s work if they get caught

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Will say whatever you want to hear for the right size donation.

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Dr Graham has been my Pastor since I was a kid. He's not that type of Pastor. And if I thought he was I wouldnt defend him or respect him.

Anyone that hears his sermon from this past Mothers Day Sunday, will understand the guy doesn't hold back.

penalizing the woman doesnt seem to be on the table other than for one being discussed here TX. Which he didnt agree should occur, because he's seen/heard a lot for the church's pregnancy center

He is on Trumps spiritual advisory team, and was for 43 too. This is something that turned me more towards Trump knowing Dr. Graham has his ear.

I would say Dr Graham is the 2nd most influential man/person in my life, my dad being #1. But doesnt mean I wouldnt lose respect for him if I heard/saw him being one of those types you are assuming he is.

More and more fakes coming out.
Soon Joel osteen will come out and say that it’s ok, there are no consequences, and that if you send him $100, you’ll get $1000000 in return... lol

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Anyone that hears his sermon from this past Mothers Day Sunday, will understand the guy doesn't hold back.

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'Honoring Marriage'

Here's a link to watch/listen to it. Any true Christian Conservative will get a lot out of it during this time we live in.

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He's taking some heat from other pastors, but he's also gotten some support. I think it's a measured, reasonable attitude for pro-life people to take.

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I've conveyed my opinions in several threads about this subject for months actually. I'm tired and I want to go to bed. This stuff will be here in the morning.

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So Dr Graham, former Southern Baptist President

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The term "Southern Baptist" doesn't carry nearly the weight and moral legitimacy it did a quarter century ago. There are a couole of termites named Moore and their followers (including the current SBC president) trying their best to turn it into the Southern Methodist Convention. The rest are trying to unbrand it and turn it into the Southern Evangelical Megachurch Convention.

...and that's coming from someone who bailed on it after spending 30+ years as an observant, tithing, Southern Baptist.

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Shouldn't unwanted babies be shipped to prolife groups

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Simultaneously as the Dems advance baby killing, they are seeking to ban Christian prolife adoption agencies from helping children because they only want to adopt them out to traditional families. So there's that.

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If the illegals should be shipped to sanctuary cities (that should) Shouldn't unwanted babies be shipped to prolife groups

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Maybe all these human beings you want “shipped” should travel in cargo containers on trains...it’s almost like your kind did this with humans before..