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re: I want to talk about the rebel flag
Posted on 5/13/19 at 1:08 am to HuskyPanda
Posted on 5/13/19 at 1:08 am to HuskyPanda
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also have a lot of white friends, rich and poor.
I don't have any poor friends.
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 3:57 am to bee Rye
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The upper class people have something to lose
Like majority of Liberals, they hide their racism, and as this OP mentions, they unlike dirt poors have everything to lose.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:31 am to Collegedropout
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Alamo Heights
I know the area Collegedropout. Did 2 years at Incarnate Word Before I dropped out my damn self and moved here. Alamo Heights is a beautiful area.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:46 am to HuskyPanda
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I'm black and my opinion about the flag is...that I don't care.
Obviously you're not a pussy....become a pussy and you'll care.......that's how it works....oh yeah, congrats on not being a pussy.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 5:56 am to HuskyPanda
I'm not going to read every reply to see if this explanation has been given just forewarning.
I think the people that identify with the rebel flag do so out of a sense of regional and ancestral pride.
To them, the confederate flag symbolizes standing up for your way of life and defending your home front against all odds, a sense of pride in where you are from.
Other people, who you have identified as being more financially accomplished, have other things to take pride in. They may see the flag as a symbol of the same types of things your lower income friends do, but it doesn't mean enough to them to chance it upsetting you, or anyone else.
I think the people that identify with the rebel flag do so out of a sense of regional and ancestral pride.
To them, the confederate flag symbolizes standing up for your way of life and defending your home front against all odds, a sense of pride in where you are from.
Other people, who you have identified as being more financially accomplished, have other things to take pride in. They may see the flag as a symbol of the same types of things your lower income friends do, but it doesn't mean enough to them to chance it upsetting you, or anyone else.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 6:04 am to HuskyPanda
I wouldn’t risk showing the rebel flag now days because once you are out on blast on social media for being a racist, that can effect a ton in your life and i can’t afford to lose certain things
Posted on 5/13/19 at 6:41 am to CaptainBrannigan
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Because the rebel flag is an easy way to immediately identify the worst people among us
This is the dumbest thing I've seen posted in a while. If you believe this change your beliefs for your own sake.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 6:45 am to lepdagod
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I'm Black also ... and you sound ridiculous lil brother
Oh look the fugitive slave catcher.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 6:46 am to bencoleman
I fly this and nobody is the wiser.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 6:48 am to go_tigres
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My theory is that lower income white folk partially, or wholly, believe their lower financially status is due to black folk
I don't know anyone that believes this.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 6:55 am to Mudflap
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We (southerners) let the kkk racists appropriate the symbol. It’s over. Let it go for now
This makes sense but as long as we're in America people have a right to Express themselves however they see fit. That's why you can't go around looking to be offended constantly.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 6:59 am to HuskyPanda
In the 60’s some of it was racism and some of it was flown by people like my grandfather who’s father fought in the war. Now the flag he flew over my great grandfather’s grave on his birthday was a battle flag from his unit which was different than the stars and bars.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 7:02 am to HuskyPanda
Some dude in Italy told me “the South will rose again!”
Posted on 5/13/19 at 7:04 am to HuskyPanda
I'm not going to read through 12 pages, but I will just say that even with being a descendant of people who fought under the flag, I personally feel no connection to the flag. I feel like it belongs in museums and history books, not on government grounds.
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 7:05 am
Posted on 5/13/19 at 7:04 am to HuskyPanda
“Upper” class whites know better than to sport that flag and likely have evolved to a point that they have no major issues with blacks.
I think the media and left overplay the flag as a dog whistle for all whites to rally. It just doesn’t work that way and but for a few examples of white trash rebel flag toting, it wouldn’t be an issue.
Ironically, I attended a middle school with the rebel mascot and flag. School was roughly 50/50 perhaps 60/40 white to black. We had a huge rebel flag in our gym. We attended P.E. everyday and played team sports together, all under that flag. None of us was concerned with that flag as a symbol at that time. That flag didn’t cause me to hate my black brothers on the basketball team. Our parents attended games and no one even thought to complain.
A lot of this debate and extremism over monuments and flags is just that - extremism for the political expediency of a party or group. Most folks have sense enough to know that the rebel flag is a flag from a long gone era and the folks I went to school with under that symbol are recalled as fondly today as they were when we were all together.
I think the media and left overplay the flag as a dog whistle for all whites to rally. It just doesn’t work that way and but for a few examples of white trash rebel flag toting, it wouldn’t be an issue.
Ironically, I attended a middle school with the rebel mascot and flag. School was roughly 50/50 perhaps 60/40 white to black. We had a huge rebel flag in our gym. We attended P.E. everyday and played team sports together, all under that flag. None of us was concerned with that flag as a symbol at that time. That flag didn’t cause me to hate my black brothers on the basketball team. Our parents attended games and no one even thought to complain.
A lot of this debate and extremism over monuments and flags is just that - extremism for the political expediency of a party or group. Most folks have sense enough to know that the rebel flag is a flag from a long gone era and the folks I went to school with under that symbol are recalled as fondly today as they were when we were all together.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 7:05 am to HuskyPanda
I like the p&g one the best
I own two
I own two
Posted on 5/13/19 at 7:06 am to GetCocky11
quote:Same here.
I personally feel no connection to the flag.
Just a rallying cry for rednecks nowadays.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:08 am to OweO
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Why is this a question only black people would know?
Seriously, I grew up listening to all 3, especially Aretha and Diana.
A. It was a joke.
B. I continue to listen to all three as well.
C. And the answer is Gladys, but I'm white, therefore, OP must be black.
Verified. OP is black.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:09 am to white beans
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some are descendants of confederate veterans.
I can almost guarantee you that is not the reason that most poor rural white people fly that flag.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:15 am to HuskyPanda
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Why do upper class whites not wave the rebel flag bot low income white do?
Ignorance. Upper and upper middle class whites have come to realize the connotations of the flag and what it represents to many people, and are mostly empathetic to that. They also just don't want to deal with the backlash that would come with flying it on their property. I know many that still support the flag. They've just learned to hide that support from public view.
Poor whites are pretty ignorant. It's one reason why they're poor. Some of that comes with just rarely getting out of their bubble and meeting people from different walks of life, so they never develop the empathy of what other people go through.
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