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re: There is a world wide helium shortage and we may need to ban party balloons

Posted on 5/10/19 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by Priapus
Member since Oct 2012
1950 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 3:09 pm to
No there isn't.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89753 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 4:23 pm to
If we solved the fusion power problem, we could just make a limitless supply of cheap energy fusion hydrogen into helium.

We should do that anyway, even if we didn't need the helium.
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14273 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 4:27 pm to
Gas Chromatographs for many years used helium as the carrier gas to move the materials (in a gaseous state) through the chromatographic columns. At least ten years ago, we were notified by the gas suppliers that we had to come up with new procedures that relied on some other carrier gas, because the world was running our of helium. The gas we sued was nitrogen and (in the pharmaceutical industry) we had to eat the cost of testing procedure development and validation.

The shortage of helium is a big deal. God only made a certain amount of it and unless we blast it out into space (rocket fuel tank pressurization) we have what we have and not more. The simple truth is that "too many things" use helium gas - like the internals of power generators in big steam generating plants.


Hopefully, they will work out other options for replacing helium gas. (almost all GC testing now uses other carrier gas). I haven't read the posts yet. The Macy's New Years day parade balloons use a lot of helium (which is lighter than air), as do military dirigibles. Helium is also lighter then air, but go check the Hindenburg to see how well that works.

I can see outlawing party balloons, and Macy's balloons, or at least taxing them into extinction.


Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4711 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 5:02 pm to
From everything I've read before, the helium used to filled balloons is "low grade" and couldn't be used for the scientific purposes mentioned.
Posted by Squid
Goodlettsville
Member since Sep 2006
1246 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 6:15 pm to
It’s true. The wife pressure tests rocket engines, which requires helium. Getting harder to buy it.
Posted by tigernnola
NOLA
Member since Sep 2016
3589 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 6:17 pm to
Party City closing 46 stores with the shortage. Goodyear may have a problem the big problem with the blimp fleet :-)
Posted by CuyahogaTigerJr
Northeast ohio
Member since Aug 2018
2197 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 6:28 pm to
Bout dam time
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18637 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 6:36 pm to
I’m sure someone said it already, but how is helium even produced? Is it mined? Can it be produced in a lab? I hadno idea that helium was a finite resource. It’s was just always there.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
26156 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 6:41 pm to
Helium is flying off the shelves
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 7:46 pm to
There is no chemical way of manufacturing helium, and the supplies we have originated in the very slow radioactive alpha decay that occurs in rocks. It costs around 10,000 times more to extract helium from air than it does from rocks and natural gas reserves. Helium is the second-lightest element in the Universe.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49150 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 7:58 pm to
A lot of HE is used as carrier gas in chromatographs
Posted by Bigbee Hills
Member since Feb 2019
1531 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:24 pm to
Them welding baws been knowing this fer yirs.
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