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re: What's the scoops on "white labs"?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:33 pm to JAB528
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:33 pm to JAB528
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Healthy labs don’t get 105 lb
welp my male yeller is 153 lbs. No clue how or why. Only feed grain free health food. Feed once per day, and measure out him and my female (who is 65lbs) same amount of food. Have had bloodwork done for thyroid, all came back good. And he isnt belly sagging fat. He is just a big dog. He is thick.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:37 pm to tigerfoot
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She is hefty. Do dogs get diabetes?
Yes they do, and it can cost as much (or more) to treat it as it does with humans.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 6:59 am to MAEFIELD
quote:Mung's Yella did that. I think it resulted in an insurance claim.
she ran into a car...left dent in car,
Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:10 am to JAB528
quote:Some do, or at least one I had did (the brindle/black dog I mentioned in the "lab with white spot" thread.)
Healthy labs don’t get 105 lb
Posted on 5/2/19 at 10:01 am to JAB528
quote:remember when very few labs were over 75 lbs?
Healthy labs don’t get 105 lb
Posted on 5/2/19 at 11:57 am to oleyeller
It probably has a lineage that comes down from show breeding stock. That's not a knock on the dog, but only a possible explanation.
Bench dogs, often get huge if the breeding is not kept in check. It's very unhealthy for the dog because the dog is a victim of it's own breed, and a labrador is not supposed to be 153 pounds.
I'd imagine that a 153 pound lab is one big ol cute cuddly teddy bear som bitch though!
To the OP, there's a kennel in N. MS that is one of the few that I'd consider one from if I were serious about hunting with it. I've personally seen 1 good one and 1 absolute doofus (in the field) come out of that kennel. The decent hunting one had a heat stroke while training on what was a fairly cool, spring day. Even though the pup was trained and exercised pretty regularly and was fed well, he was still a huge dog, and that size was his undoing. (We won't even discuss what it was like when he hauled off over the gunwale of a flat bottom.)
If working the pup is your goal (obviously petting the good boy is everybody's goal) then you gotta be real careful with the "specialty" kennels. Inbreeding is rampant (even more so than in other kennels), and it's not a dominant trait for the breed to have on a regular basis.
And hiding the damned things is a nightmare. They were beautiful though.
Bench dogs, often get huge if the breeding is not kept in check. It's very unhealthy for the dog because the dog is a victim of it's own breed, and a labrador is not supposed to be 153 pounds.
I'd imagine that a 153 pound lab is one big ol cute cuddly teddy bear som bitch though!
To the OP, there's a kennel in N. MS that is one of the few that I'd consider one from if I were serious about hunting with it. I've personally seen 1 good one and 1 absolute doofus (in the field) come out of that kennel. The decent hunting one had a heat stroke while training on what was a fairly cool, spring day. Even though the pup was trained and exercised pretty regularly and was fed well, he was still a huge dog, and that size was his undoing. (We won't even discuss what it was like when he hauled off over the gunwale of a flat bottom.)
If working the pup is your goal (obviously petting the good boy is everybody's goal) then you gotta be real careful with the "specialty" kennels. Inbreeding is rampant (even more so than in other kennels), and it's not a dominant trait for the breed to have on a regular basis.
And hiding the damned things is a nightmare. They were beautiful though.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 2:02 pm to JAB528
Not so - my healthy lab is 120#
Posted on 5/2/19 at 2:04 pm to Bigbee Hills
I have a white lab out of N miss - beautiful he’s 125+pounds at 12 years old .. he’s extremely intelligent and very laid back ...
And yes technically he’s a yellow
And yes technically he’s a yellow
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 5/2/19 at 2:43 pm to Howard Juneau
I got this one from a lady in Atlanta that breeds white labs and white German Sheppard's. Somehow one of the labs and sheppards hooked up and had a litter and she wouldn't sell them. So I got to choose from 3-4 of them. Best dog I ever had....some jackass stole him.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 2:53 pm to tigerfoot
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Do dogs get diabetes?
Yep. They sure do. And then they get cataracts. And you have to have those removed. It ain't cheap.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:55 pm to SSpaniel
The british labs have some of the most gorgeous block heads and are usually a little more docile compared to American labs. It is really genetics not the fault of the owner. American labs have been bred to be as fast and hardcore because of trials. British labs are more from a true hunting stock. I have a black american that turns the light switch on but the rest of the time is as easy as they come. I honestly think he has some British in him because of his head.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 4:02 pm to NCdawgfan34
Absolutely gorgeous dog, baw!
I love a beautiful, well built and bred black lab. Awesome looking pup!
I love a beautiful, well built and bred black lab. Awesome looking pup!
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:04 pm to NCdawgfan34
Nice looking dog!
To the OP: As I remember, the AKC standard (for weight) is 65-80 lbs for dogs and 55-70 lbs for bitches. Supposed to be shown in working weight, which we all know isn’t adhered to in show rings.
If you’re looking for a simple pet, get whatever you want.
If you’re looking for a field dog, then you best go with field proven lines of whatever color you prefer.
Disclaimer: I’m a field lab person.
To the OP: As I remember, the AKC standard (for weight) is 65-80 lbs for dogs and 55-70 lbs for bitches. Supposed to be shown in working weight, which we all know isn’t adhered to in show rings.
If you’re looking for a simple pet, get whatever you want.
If you’re looking for a field dog, then you best go with field proven lines of whatever color you prefer.
Disclaimer: I’m a field lab person.
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 5/3/19 at 6:47 am to Howard Juneau
Have never seen one but my neighbor has a silver lab. Has anyone seen a Fox Red lab?
Posted on 5/3/19 at 10:12 am to themamouian
I saw a HRCH work once at a trial and fell in love with her. I've always wanted one.
There are some great fox red kennels throwing litters with great bloodlines and superior breeding. You can often- but not always- tell the standards that they adhere to by the # of non-fox red pups they have had for sale. Unfortunately, because it's a "specialty," the vermin that are puppy mills are always lurking with litters for sale. Their dams are nothing less than cattle for them (except dog chit smells way worse than a cow's).
Like any other pup, if you're serious about working them in the field- (and that is the major factor here: serious about field work) then look at the pedigree, look at the sire and dam for their demeanor and build (this is the best method to determine what your getting, and IME, especially with what you see in the dam), ask to see them work (if they can't and I'm serious about it, that's a big strike), ask for references on people who work their pups, look for reviews and don't be afraid to set the cute, cuddly little thing down and drive hours back home empty handed.
I love a black male labrador like the one above about as much as any other breed type, save a goofy male German Shorthair with good hunting stock and pure drive to hunt anything that I say is okay to hunt, but my next field dog will probably be a thoroughbred fox red. And I'll pay dearly for it!
There are some great fox red kennels throwing litters with great bloodlines and superior breeding. You can often- but not always- tell the standards that they adhere to by the # of non-fox red pups they have had for sale. Unfortunately, because it's a "specialty," the vermin that are puppy mills are always lurking with litters for sale. Their dams are nothing less than cattle for them (except dog chit smells way worse than a cow's).
Like any other pup, if you're serious about working them in the field- (and that is the major factor here: serious about field work) then look at the pedigree, look at the sire and dam for their demeanor and build (this is the best method to determine what your getting, and IME, especially with what you see in the dam), ask to see them work (if they can't and I'm serious about it, that's a big strike), ask for references on people who work their pups, look for reviews and don't be afraid to set the cute, cuddly little thing down and drive hours back home empty handed.
I love a black male labrador like the one above about as much as any other breed type, save a goofy male German Shorthair with good hunting stock and pure drive to hunt anything that I say is okay to hunt, but my next field dog will probably be a thoroughbred fox red. And I'll pay dearly for it!
Posted on 5/3/19 at 10:19 am to NCdawgfan34
NCdawgfan34,
I wish we had PMs here (without paying for them), but where did you buy your pup? If you don't want to say on the open internet then no worries, but that is a build and physique that I'm always searching for in a pup.
If you can't say or if he came from a single litter, then go on ahead and set those feelings aside and let me buy him?
*there's no need in thinking this through*
I wish we had PMs here (without paying for them), but where did you buy your pup? If you don't want to say on the open internet then no worries, but that is a build and physique that I'm always searching for in a pup.
If you can't say or if he came from a single litter, then go on ahead and set those feelings aside and let me buy him?
*there's no need in thinking this through*
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:28 pm to JAB528
quote:
Healthy labs don’t get 105 lb
You could not be more wrong. My chocolate brit is 110 and in fantastic health.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:43 pm to oleyeller
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welp my male yeller is 153 lbs
WOW
You got a pic of this absolute unit?
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:57 pm to JamalSanders
Beautiful pup right there!
Posted on 5/3/19 at 2:07 pm to Bigbee Hills
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Beautiful pup right there!
Thanks. Ol Leroy can be a bit of a unit from time to time.
We are starting to walk into the whole stud arena right now, but I'm not so sure it's a direction I want to go. Seems like the places interested in him (CKC, excellent hips, good hunter, no field trial experience) operate more out of the back of a van than I prefer. Do have one meeting with a guy near atlanta that does training and breeds on the side.
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