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re: Casino > Goodfellas

Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:44 am to
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
11044 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 10:44 am to
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Casino > Goodfellas




Sometimes you don't sound like you're kidding, you know? There's a lotta people around...
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89613 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 11:10 am to
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. Stone did a hell of a job making you genuinely hate her in that role.


Some folks want to slam Casino for Stone's performance, but I think they're confusing dislike for the character with a bad performance. She's mesmerizing for parts of this film.

Apparently the cast and crew gave her an ovation after the "freak out on the front lawn scene" - and reportedly Marty had folks who witnessed the actual freak out (either some of the responding cops, some Rosenthal neighbors or both IIRC) present and they endorsed it as a realistic portrayal. I mean, that's the news article that Pileggi sent to Marty to get him hooked on filming a story based on those folks.
This post was edited on 4/26/19 at 11:11 am
Posted by jTy
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jan 2018
99 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 11:24 am to
If I may quote David Spade from an SNL weekend update... "Casino, Caseen-it. Liked it better when it was called Goodfellas."
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10981 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 11:33 am to
Goodfellas was just a more enticing story and packed so much in.

One thing it lacked though, was the Sam Rothstein dancers.

Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59130 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

but I think they're confusing dislike for the character with a bad performance


Someone always says this when discussing this movie but I am perfectly capable of distinguishing between a character I can’t stand and some of the most laughable over acting I can think of.

Posted by Mister Bigfish
Member since Oct 2018
938 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 3:31 pm to
I like both but I find Casino more entertaining. So no you are not alone.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
5514 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 3:52 pm to
I can't fault your preference.

I prefer Goodfellas by a little. Maybe a little editing of Casino would move the needle.

Someone called Goodfellas the perfect movie. I'm not sure exactly what criteria pertains in that analysis but I get his drift.

I wonder where this one would fall in the race? Fugazy or Fugazi?
Posted by OlGrandad
Member since Oct 2009
3517 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 8:50 pm to
Horrible opinion.

Goodfellas is better, and it's not even a little bit close.
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:13 pm to
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
11044 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 9:44 pm to
Goodfellas spoke to me more. I have always had the want to be a gangster. Cheer for the bad guys in the movies just like Jimmy, but I have this thing called a consciousnse that has always held me back. Damn angel on my shoulder.
Posted by shadymilkman
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
92 posts
Posted on 4/26/19 at 11:55 pm to
I like Casino better until De Niro marries Sharon Stone. After that, Goodfellas is better.

I really like the opening of Casino.

For the entire movie, Goodfellas is better
Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10591 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 7:06 am to
I thought Casino was Scorsese's downfall to be honest. After Goodfellas he's been real erratic. Wolf of Wall St. was ok and I thought The Departed was pretty forgettable. Goodfellas was his last great film.
Posted by JohnnyBgood
South Louisiana
Member since May 2010
4294 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 7:56 am to
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The Departed was pretty forgettable.


No, just no.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14307 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 8:30 am to
quote:

I thought Casino was Scorsese's downfall to be honest. After Goodfellas he's been real erratic. Wolf of Wall St. was ok and I thought The Departed was pretty forgettable. Goodfellas was his last great film.


You're pretty much right on. I disagree with the casino part though. I do think it was a good movie.

But you're right about scorceses' downfall. I just think it came with the departed and not casino.

The departed was terrible. As was wolf of wallstreet.

So much pointless/useless dialogue in wolf.


But in terms of scorceses' "last great movie". Yep, it was goodfellas for sure.
This post was edited on 4/27/19 at 8:32 am
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34512 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 1:23 pm to
Yes you are alone.

I might be alone in thinking that Sharon Stone’s character could’ve been left out all together. And instead of a 2 hr, 40 min movie, you’ve got a really good 2 hr movie.

Just my two cents.
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9203 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

Am I alone in this thinking?

No not alone. Both are all time greats but I find Casino to be the overall better made movie and Goodfellas to be more entertaining and more rewatchable
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25378 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

Casino is excellent. Just can't match Goodfellas which is a modern classic.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27464 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:26 am to
When I do something stupid like stub a toe or bump my head I go into a Pesci Billy Batts monologue...
“You s t u p I d dumb motherfricker....”
Posted by dead money
kyle, tx
Member since Feb 2014
1391 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 5:31 am to
Love both but I prefer Casino as well. I've talked to a couple old school gamblers in the past who told me stories about Tony Spilotro and when they saw the movie, they said they almost shite their pants because Pesci looks like him, talked like him, and everything. Like literally to the T. I've stayed at the Stardust (The Tangiers Casino on the movie) and the Riviera (both extinct now) in the past and it's kind if surreal knowing the history of both places being mob owned in the past.

It's not a knock on goodfellas which is excellent too but given a choice, I would take Casino. Just a well made thoroughly entertaining movie from beginning to end.
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