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re: Two Lake Charles men arrested for having sex with 14-year-old

Posted on 4/16/19 at 12:04 am to
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 12:04 am to
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But once puberty is hit, it should be a moral/parental issue and none of the state’s business.


Absolutely wrong and false.

There’s a compelling public and state interest in preventing the degeneracy and moral rot of wedlock teenage pregnancy and child support payments for young boys and that includes punishing the perpetrators if they’re an adult that’s not subject to Romeo and Juliet provisions in the law.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 12:08 am
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 12:07 am to
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I thought you were a libertarian.


I thought wrong.

I’ve gone through a political realignment/adjustment over the last few years and have come to realize I’m more of a paleoconservative than I realized.

Lolbertarians making a complete arse joke out of themselves didn’t help things either.

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Your statism is showing.


Not my fault you can’t see a compelling public and state interest when there’s one.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 12:07 am to
These situations always baffle me. What is the attraction to having sex with a kid? If you want someone young, find a young looking 21 year old or something.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 12:09 am to
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There’s a reason why we have ages of consent at an age where they’re already been capable of reproduction.

Until a few years ago there were several states where 14 was the age of consent. I'm not sure if any are still 14 but most states are still 16. This is also why there are federal laws against transporting minors across state lines with the intent to have sex.

The main reason all porn actors have to be 18 is because those videos could be seen in a state where the age of consent is 18.

That said I don't know why anyone would want to date a young chick anyway. I didn't like high school drama when was in high school and I sure as frick can't stand it now
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 12:12 am to
I think the double standard is ridiculous which is 49% of the impetus behind my compendium of naughty teachers thread, which I need to update with the 3 whores from the last 2 days.

However, the modern American double standard is the exact reason why the phycological impact is often higher on young girls than the boys. The boys get a sense of accomplishment and the whores get off, the girls get a sense of shame and the men get hard time. This is a generalization but usually true.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 12:18 am to
Dude... unless you’re just playing devils advocate; I’m sorry Big Brother did the whole mind rape thing to you.

Compelling state/public interest... fricking anathema.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 12:21 am
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 12:23 am to
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the modern American double standard is the exact reason why the phycological impact is often higher on young girls than the boys.


Good thing the law doesn’t discriminate and doesn’t care who’s gender is which.

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The boys get a sense of accomplishment


Is that still there and something to be proud of when there’s a baby that comes out of it and he gets tied down to it through child support and thus limits his life options and potential dating pool because of a negative mark to other women not wanting to date a guy with kids?

That’s one big reason why we arrest adult women that frick teenage boys.

Can’t have selfish whores fricking up a young boy’s bright future.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 12:24 am to
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If you want someone young, find a young looking 21 year old or something.

And if you want someone who looks REALLY young go find you a middle aged Asian woman.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 12:30 am to
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Dude... unless you’re just playing devils advocate; I’m sorry Big Brother did the whole mind rape thing to you.

Compelling state/public interest... fricking anathema.


I may not be as lolbertarian as you would like but even they recognize that the government has duties as an enoforcer of general morals and welfare of the public.

And that includes punishing adults role in degeneracy and moral rot like wedlock teenage pregnancy and young boys being fathers before they even reach full fledged adulthood.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 12:33 am to
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government

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enforcement

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morals



RIP Sentrius. I’ll pour out some bourbon from the state of the Pauls for you.
Posted by Walt OReilly
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 2:44 am to
I say go ahead and kill them darryljames you fricking scumbag
Posted by PowerTool
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 2:53 am to
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Two grown arse women with a 14 year old boy and depending on whether or not they're attractive, they hardleg them and talk like a grown arse adult fricking a minor under the age of consent is socially acceptable and healthy.


We make jokes if it's a junior or senior in high school banging some hot 23 year old headcase.

Big difference between that and 2 dudes in their 50's taking turns with a 14-year old.

Nobody high-fives when we read about some gross old bag English teacher molesting a 14 year old boy.

It's not a double standard; the standard is: Would I have wanted to frick that bitch when I was that guy's age? It's not a legal standard, but it's really not hard to figure out what people are thinking.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 2:55 am
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:22 am to
I’m pretty sure that - if it were the daughter of anyone in this thread - we’d all be ready to handle those old baws.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:31 am to
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We make jokes if it's a junior or senior in high school banging some hot 23 year old headcase.


That would be borderline because in some places it may fall within Romeo and Juliet provisions, the teenager is past the age of consent.

And if the woman was a teacher, punishment that I believe is acceptable is permanent revocation of teaching license, a fine with community service or an option to do a month or two in jail.

Gray area is gray area.

And btw, I have argued that women that young should not be allowed to teach high school students as they're too close to junior and senior age range. Minimum age should be like 26 or so.

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the standard is: Would I have wanted to frick that bitch when I was that guy's age?


Thing is with the bottom line here, the teenager is, while just beginning the transition to grown up lifestyle, is still a kid for the time being that does not have a fully developed and mature mindset that appreciates and understands the consequences of sex.

And the adult woman is putting the quality of life and future of the young guy at risk with a possible pregnancy that would tie him down and limit his potential for growth, both personal and professional and also limit his dating pool as a mark against him by women that don't want to get involved with a dad with kids.

Sure we can think the adult woman/teacher is hot, want to frick her all we want and I can be one of those guys but I know that we still have to hold her accountable for being a selfish whore that couldn't stick with her own age range or older and chose to attempt to contribute to the moral rot that's a teenage parent.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 5:19 am to
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If a 55 and a 54 year old man or woman have sex with a 14 year old, then they are pedophiles and deserve maximum punishment. There's no excuse for that


Not excusing what they’ve done, but from reading comments from Facebook on numerous pages, it comes off as money was exchanged.

Sounds like they paid for a gangbang. As far as KNOWING how old the girl was when it happened, I don’t know.
Posted by The Torch
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 5:33 am to
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Calcasieu Parish


Fish weren't biting that day
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 5:46 am to
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Good thing the law doesn’t discriminate and doesn’t care who’s gender is which.


That is potentially the silliest comment in this entire thread. While the codified law is the same the punishment doled out is almost universally very different. The female rapist gets a slap on the hand and the male rapist gets hard time. While every case is different, and the one at hand is really ugly I guarantee if the genders were reversed even if the ages stayed the same the punishment would not be equal.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
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Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:05 am to
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And the adult woman is putting the quality of life and future of the young guy at risk with a possible pregnancy that would tie him down and limit his potential for growth, both personal and professional and also limit his dating pool as a mark against him by women that don't want to get involved with a dad with kids.


What if the woman was smart enough to get fixed? Would that be ok?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:09 am to
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There’s a compelling public and state interest in preventing the degeneracy and moral rot of wedlock teenage pregnancy and child support payments for young boys and that includes punishing the perpetrators if they’re an adult that’s not subject to Romeo and Juliet provisions in the law.

this is getting icky but you shouldn't be making a "compelling public interest" argument with that distinction

who is more likely to support the pregnant teen, a child within the same age or an older man? the older man

so there goes that "compelling public interest" angle re: child support. it's a bad argument
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 7:11 am to
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These situations always baffle me. What is the attraction to having sex with a kid? If you want someone young, find a young looking 21 year old or something.

i imagine 21 year olds are less likely to bang these guys than the dumb 14 year old. that 14 year old likely was sexually abused by her father, brother, or uncle or something as a child and has a warped view of sexuality that makes the more of bnaging 2 old guys seem OK

most 21 year olds have grown up a bit and have better options for a daddy kink

*ETA: this is a better argument for the laws than the one i just responded to, fwiw
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 7:12 am
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