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Ok so Smart was cleared by the NCAA, right?

Posted on 4/12/19 at 5:26 pm
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 5:26 pm
Then what's the holdup with Wade? If there weren't payments, there weren't payments. Isn't Smart the supposed player in question?
Posted by Bonjourno
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2717 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 5:29 pm to
I agree with this. The NCAA cleared smart meaning he was not provided with impermissible benefits. So the phone conversation in itself is just speaking about an offer which is a violation but should be a slap on the wrist at most
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 5:29 pm to
Offers=\=payments
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 5:32 pm to
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Ok so Smart was cleared by the NCAA, right?


No.

LSU said Smart could play.

We never got any announcement whatsoever from the NCAA.

If you know of one, please link to it.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 5:34 pm to
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So the phone conversation in itself is just speaking about an offer which is a violation


Not if they cannot substantiate what the offer entailed.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20363 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 5:35 pm to
Pride is the holdup. Alleva and company know they have to swallow it by letting Wade come back.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
16023 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 5:36 pm to
I don’t think Smart was ever cleared by NCAA since as many of you have said, WW, smart, LSU is not under investigation by NCAA.

LSU allowed smart to play after he met with admin.

That’s how I understand it. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
Posted by JBM210
Member since Dec 2010
3192 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 5:37 pm to
Wade is not under investigation by the NCAA or the FBI either. Why the suspension in the first place? Because the administration chose to believe a media hack other than their own coach that they hired.
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
9219 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 5:39 pm to
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No. LSU said Smart could play. We never got any announcement whatsoever from the NCAA.


They worked in conjunction with the NCAA since Wade was suspended. The NCAA was present in interviews of Smart,his mom, and handler. That’s the only reason he was cleared
Posted by strose
Meshry
Member since Apr 2011
423 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 5:44 pm to
An interview with LSU and/or the NCAA could have gone;

NCAA Man: Hey Javonte Smart. Did you lobby for or receive impermissible benefits from LSU?

JS: No.

NCAA Man: Then what was Coach Wade talking about on the phone about an offer to Smart?

JS: I dunno. You'd have to ask him about that.

NCAA Man: Are you sure?

JS: Yeah. I dunno what coach was talking about at all on that phone call

NCAA Man: Y'know you really shouldn't lie to us.

JS: Alright. I still don't know what Coach Wade was talking bout tho.

NCAA Man: Alrighty then. See ya later skiparoo.

and scene.

The NCAA knows who it is going to get answers from and has no means of compelling Smart to incriminate himself. Wade incriminated himself by being a total fricking dumbass and talking to frickwad McBallface on the phone instead of letting a middle man do it. The NCAA has no reason to rush an investigation and is willing to wait for Wade to testify or not testify and go over the evidence at that time as opposed to then or now when more evidence could surface.
Posted by strose
Meshry
Member since Apr 2011
423 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 5:46 pm to
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Why the suspension in the first place? Because the administration chose to believe a recording of their coach discussing an illegal to even discuss offer to a student other than their own coach that they hired.


fixt it for u bb
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4623 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 5:48 pm to
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They worked in conjunction with the NCAA since Wade was suspended. The NCAA was present in interviews of Smart,his mom, and handler. That’s the only reason he was cleared


This may be correct....I have not idea.

However, just bc Smart (and family) did not receive anything does not mean Will Wade was/is not guilty of trying to circumvent the rules (and, by the way, Wade may be guilty of nothing). My point is, just bc Smart was cleared doesn't necessarily Wade is cleared.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 5:49 pm to
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They worked in conjunction with the NCAA since Wade was suspended. The NCAA was present in interviews of Smart,his mom, and handler. That’s the only reason he was cleared


I'm aware of all of that.

LSU certainly took a pulse of the NCAA before they acted.

But none of that means that we know for a fact that Smart was cleared *by the NCAA*.

All we know for certain is that LSU did their investigation with the NCAA by their side and LSU decided to allow Smart to play.

LSU never said the NCAA gave their blessing. The NCAA made no statement. Don't assume the NCAA made any ruling whatsoever on Smart.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12132 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 5:55 pm to
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doesn't necessarily Wade is cleared.




I didn't realize anyone had accused him, other than rumor mongers.
Show me the evidence.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 5:57 pm to
quote:

Then what's the holdup with Wade? If there weren't payments, there weren't payments. Isn't Smart the supposed player in question?



For the billionth time. Smart can be innocent, but wade would stiil be guilty of making an offer if impermissible benefits to a handler and recruit to secure a commitment

Why isnt this able to be absorbed by many of you?

Offering someone money to kill someone else is stilk a crime, even if the hired hitman never kills anyone.
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6570 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

Wade is not under investigation by the FBI or NCAA
Wade Under Investigation by FBI

NCAA Investigating Will Wade
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5541 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 6:48 pm to
Smart wasn’t cleared by anybody. Geez. Even the press release states the investigation continues.

Damn do y’all even read?
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 7:19 pm to
EXACTLY, this entire shitshow was so unnecessary but I guess this is what happens when two incompetents and a leftist ambulance chasing BOS chair run LSU, is what it is
Posted by crzycjunx76
Denton, Tx
Member since Dec 2008
144 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 7:21 pm to
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but wade would stiil be guilty of making an offer if impermissible benefits to a handler


Where in the transcripts does Wade offer something impermissible?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48551 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:20 pm to
Smart didn’t take any money so he was cleared but just offering improper benefits is a violation so Wade can still be in trouble.
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