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re: John Bel Edwards is a Democrat of a different shade

Posted on 4/10/19 at 6:05 am to
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 6:05 am to
Teachers have gotten one raise in the last 12 years and that was 580$ a year roughly 1%.

Louisiana is at the bottom of of teacher pay average in the country and education scores is a result of that. Good teachers are leaving because we don't pay them.

I agree the state has a multitude of problems but saying teacher pay should be down the list is being willfully ignorant of one of the major problems in this state.

How do you judge merit? Do teachers that teach advanced classes get a raise because they are gifted with children who's intelligence is greater than the average student. Do special needs teachers get the shaft while having arguably the more difficult job. Do we really want the government deciding who gets what raises based on test scores that don't tell the whole story?

Or do we at least try to get teacher average pay in line with the rest of the country so the talented teachers stop leaving the state.

I like the latter option but you can continue to push your bad narrative.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5064 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 6:23 am to
The teachers should get a raise but it should come from the bloated salaries of school administrations and cutting positions in the central offices
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68435 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:06 am to
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Louisiana is at the bottom of of teacher pay average in the country and education scores is a result of that
That's not why the scores are low. Catholic school teachers get paid less than public school teachers and their scores are fine.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37589 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:40 am to
You do it by having two tests for each class/subject taught. One at the beginning of the year. One at the end. Same level of difficulty, same level of skills tested, but different tests. All grades by teachers given a set answer key with all the tests anonymous. None of the tests are to be multiple choice.

If you take a kid from getting a zero to getting a 35, you did a hell of a job. If you take a kid from a 99 to a 100, congrats but the kid was already proficient.

But if you take a kid from a 50 to a 51, what the frick did you actually do?
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14049 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:19 am to
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Teachers have gotten one raise in the last 12 years and that was 580$ a year roughly 1%. Louisiana is at the bottom of of teacher pay average in the country and education scores is a result of that. Good teachers are leaving because we don't pay them. I agree the state has a multitude of problems but saying teacher pay should be down the list is being willfully ignorant of one of the major problems in this state. How do you judge merit? Do teachers that teach advanced classes get a raise because they are gifted with children who's intelligence is greater than the average student. Do special needs teachers get the shaft while having arguably the more difficult job. Do we really want the government deciding who gets what raises based on test scores that don't tell the whole story? Or do we at least try to get teacher average pay in line with the rest of the country so the talented teachers stop leaving the state. I like the latter option but you can continue to push your bad narrative.
Bossier has a large property tax increase election May 4, 2019, if passed will be used to increase teacher pay and all school employee pay. Question - why does supply and demand not apply to teacher jobs?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112756 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:31 am to
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and education scores is a result of that.


Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36238 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:33 am to
The state only provides some of the teacher’s salary. Haven’t local school boards provided teachers with pay raises?

Have teachers gotten raises to pay for their health insurance? I know with health insurance costs escalating under Obama a lot of employers could not provide raises on the check, but were increasing contributions to cover health insurance?

What’s the big picture?
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 8:44 am
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14517 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:55 am to
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Teachers have gotten one raise in the last 12 years and that was 580$ a year roughly 1%.


Teachers HAVE received pay raises. This is just the first one that is a state mandated across the board pay increase.

Individual teachers have received increases. Your statement is dishonest.

That's not to say that an increase isn't warranted, but at least be honest.
Posted by cajuncarguy
On the road...Again!
Member since Jun 2013
3135 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:42 am to
quote:

Teachers have gotten one raise in the last 12 years and that was 580$ a year roughly 1%.

Louisiana is at the bottom of of teacher pay average in the country and education scores is a result of that. Good teachers are leaving because we don't pay them.

I agree the state has a multitude of problems but saying teacher pay should be down the list is being willfully ignorant of one of the major problems in this state.

How do you judge merit? Do teachers that teach advanced classes get a raise because they are gifted with children who's intelligence is greater than the average student. Do special needs teachers get the shaft while having arguably the more difficult job. Do we really want the government deciding who gets what raises based on test scores that don't tell the whole story?

Or do we at least try to get teacher average pay in line with the rest of the country so the talented teachers stop leaving the state.

I like the latter option but you can continue to push your bad narrative.




Louisiana ranks last in education. Texas about 25th. Both spend the about the exact same amount per teacher on teacher salaries. What is really eye opening is the Texas has better school facilities (by a mile) but their overhead, as measured by $ per student, is 1/2 of Louisiana.

SO that tells me that Louisiana School Boards are not educational systems but really are Jobs Programs.

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