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Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:26 pm
Posted by SaintNation
Member since Dec 2008
1887 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:26 pm
Put aside the fact that it’s not free and someone is paying for it etc.

My biggest thing that is never brought up is, people with degrees earn more money. That is a fact. But they earn more money bc a college degree sets someone apart as an applicant for a job. If everyone has a college degree than what is the worth of that degree? You basically are watering down everyone else with a college degree which wouldn’t mean shite at that point. Who gets richer?

The universities and for what a degree that wouldn’t be worth the paper it is written on. More debt for everyone. Sounds like a great idea
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 7:33 pm
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16322 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:28 pm to
I'd be ok with WIDELY increasing Pell Grant opportunities and relaxing the standards in exchange for drastic tuition cuts or ROI based tuition.
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:28 pm to
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people with relevant/useful degrees make more money


FIFY

I don't agree with paying for betas and their Sociology of Basket Weaving degrees.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142434 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:29 pm to
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Free college
From the control of the radical left
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15461 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:30 pm to
I like Tucker Carlson’s suggestion from last nite. (Private) Universities take responsibility for charging six figures for a degree by co-signing student loans. p

You think a gender studies degree is worth six figures Yale Admin? Put your money where your mouth is.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47661 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:41 pm to
Even if college was completely free for everyone, easily 50% of those that would go to college would be better off going to trade school.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:57 pm to
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Put aside the fact that it’s not free and someone is paying for it etc.


I mean it's the same for elementary school, middle school, high school, etc.. It's daycare where kids learn a little, and are probably brainwashed along the way. Either abolish the Department of Education or give incentive to make better grades in high school. You front the bill w/loans through your basics (or a year of trade school), and if you hit a passing GPA without academic academic suspension and declare a major, we can foot the bill for the final two through undergrad (or final year of trade).

I think that is common ground that might satisfy those wanting "free" college and give enough incentive to not piss away your freshman/sophomore years.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 7:59 pm
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28271 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:01 pm to
Well Louisiana implemented TOPS and our cost of college hasn't increased at a rate higher than the national average or anything so frick it why not?
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:05 pm to
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If everyone has a college degree than what is the worth of that degree?


First you just needed a high school diploma. Then a college degree. Currently it's a masters degree. Before my kids are grown it will be a doctorate I'm sure.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45848 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:08 pm to
70% of my daughter's tuition is covered by scholarships, and still, the cost is enormous.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7855 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:09 pm to
you'll be amazed how expensive college becomes, once it is free
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:13 pm to
1. Stop the scam of federally secured college loans altogether.

2. Start tracking students like a motherfricker around age 10.

3. Prepare a work-readiness curriculum on a state level that partners with local employers to give average and below average students OTJ experience in a variety of fields: retail, sales, trades, etc with a goal of 100% first time job placement by age 18 (ideally with 1-2 years experience already).

4. Outlaw the ability of employers to require a college diploma for any specific position. Ideally by federal statute, but if a Constitutional Amendment is necessary, so be it.
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
8686 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:17 pm to
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Put aside the fact that it’s not free and someone is paying for it etc.


This is the Catch 22. You can’t put aside this fact. The Tax Liability for FREE college would be astronomical. Think Health Care. When 10 to 15 percent of the population received FREE Health Care did Cost go down. NO. This is another Liberal Fantasy.

By the way we also have 125+ Trillion in unfunded Liability as a Country and our National Debt is 20 TRILLION and climbing.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20032 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:25 pm to
I believe the growing pool of college educated young people, with poor career opportunities has contributed to the frustration that you see from the left.
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